Joint MD vs Glucosamine - Anyone ever try Joint MD?

EclipsedAgent · 06-01-2007, 05:06 PM

Ok, here is a quick excert of "Joint MD"

Joint MD is an all in one formula for joint health made with natural ingredients. It is designed by doctors and has been clinically proven to be fast acting and more powerful than Glucosamine. Doctor Formulated and Approved Joint MD delivers fast Joint and Cartilage Support. It works up to 300% faster than Maximum Strength Glucosamine to dramatically support joint health. Joint MD has been clinically proven to support Joint Function and Flexibility. It is 100 Percent Drug Free and comes in Easy To Swallow Caplets.

I think I am more intrested in knowing if anyone has every used it, for short term.

Reason I am asking, the Gracie Open is at the end of the month, and last week I twisted my ankle, and it's still a little sore, and I was thinking of just taking some Glucosamine, but was wondering if taking Joint MD would be more beneficial for my injury.

The ankle inure seems to be a moderate case sprain, and it has mostly healed in the last week and a half since it has happened.

I am currently rollowing lightly, and am trying to stay away from posting on the bad aknle to help support it's healing.

Just wondering if I should just do the normal Glucosamine or Joint MD I guess..

Thanks

Evil Eye Gouger · 06-01-2007, 05:14 PM

In my experience, glucosamine is not a short-term pain relief supplement. It's something that takes 3 months to see effects. Furthermore, it's best for cartilage-based injuries (osteoarthritis, and the like) taken over a long time.

Sounds like some anti-inflamatory enzymes and careful recovery workouts for your ankles will be much better than either option you're considering.

EclipsedAgent · 06-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Eye Gouger

In my experience, glucosamine is not a short-term pain relief supplement. It's something that takes 3 months to see effects. Furthermore, it's best for cartilage-based injuries (osteoarthritis, and the like) taken over a long time.

Sounds like some anti-inflamatory enzymes and careful recovery workouts for your ankles will be much better than either option you're considering.

Thanks for the quick reply..

My main problem is not the pain, and the swelling seems to have gone away, but I guess I am worried about re-injuring prior to the tournament while doing simple drills.

I am doing rehabilitation exersizes targeted for my ankle, and for the week have iced and braced it on and off, to try to help muscle recovery, and don't want it to re-injure doing something silly..

I have no tightness when ligint the toes, or standing on tip e toes, just tightness on the front part of the ball joint, when going side to side..

Would that be a cartliage injury, or more of a ligament issue?

Evil Eye Gouger · 06-01-2007, 05:35 PM

I'm not a doctor, and you shouldn't take my word for it, but you've probably pulled some ligaments, possibly bruised a bone.

I honestly don't think a month of glucosamine would change anything there, other than a placebo effect.

You need to improve the natural recovery of your injury. Enzymes could help here. So would resting whenever you are not training, warm massage (once the swelling starts to subside).

The most important thing, however, is not to re-injure it. Get somebody to show you how to tape your ankle -- a football coach, a soccer coach, a physiotherapist, a friend who used to do track and field, somebody who has done it.

A taped ankle could be a bit weird while grappling, but it will ensure that you don't land wrong on the injured ankle. you will still need to take it easy to have it recover.

Foot sprains are a bitch. Sometimes they're gone in a week, sometimes you battle with pain and decreased mobility for months.

If you really want to compete: maximise recovery through rest, massage, and possibly some Wobenzym, and learn how to tape your ankle until it recovers.

EclipsedAgent · 06-01-2007, 05:49 PM

Awesome.. thanks for the input..

I've been wearing a ankle sleeve to help with the compression. Do you think taping will be that much greater of an effect over sleeves?

I'll try to massage more often.. the swelling is basically non existent (but slightly there even after a week and a half) although there is no pain while massaging. )

I'll give some of your suggestions a shot .. Thank you

Evil Eye Gouger · 06-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EclipsedAgent

I've been wearing a ankle sleeve to help with the compression. Do you think taping will be that much greater of an effect over sleeves?

Sleeve is good, but it likely won't help you much against twisting the ankle again. Taping the ankle ensures that it can only move in one direction, so twisting the ankle again is almost impossible. The downside is that you have far less mobility, but keep in mind that you are recovering.

I played half a soccer season in highschool on village pitches full of holes with busted ankles, and it worked fine.

But you need to find someone to show you the proper way to tape it, and not improvise something the way you think it should be done. In that case, it's better to simply use a (very tight) sleeve.

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I'll try to massage more often.. the swelling is basically non existent (but slightly there even after a week and a half) although there is no pain while massaging. )

The massage and heat will help you even after the swelling is gone because they increase the flow of blood, and this speeds up the healing process.

Recovery workouts do the same thing.

Just don't massage it so much that you irritate the injury. A little bit every night, in hot water should help.

TSD-Bulldog · 06-01-2007, 07:06 PM

Truthfully, the medical literature is revealing very minimal benefit from glucosamine and chondroitin. A big problem in the nutiritional supplement industry is that formulas such as "Joint M.D." can go around and say that their product is absorbed 300% more than standard joint formula without unbiased published back-up (*of course there is always a chance that their claims are true). The truth is that glucosamine and chondroitin are not very bioavailable for cartilage-support as we had all hoped. It likely won't hurt you but to expect benefits especially within a month as you are hoping for is a stretch IMO.

Oktavius · 06-01-2007, 08:00 PM

Supplements are BS except for creatine. That actually does something. And there are others only available in US that have some hormone boost but they are illegal most other places.

EclipsedAgent · 06-01-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oktavius

Supplements are BS except for creatine. That actually does something. And there are others only available in US that have some hormone boost but they are illegal most other places.

Ever hear of protein? L-Glutamine? And a HUGE long list of others

EclipsedAgent · 06-01-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TSD-Bulldog

Truthfully, the medical literature is revealing very minimal benefit from glucosamine and chondroitin. A big problem in the nutiritional supplement industry is that formulas such as "Joint M.D." can go around and say that their product is absorbed 300% more than standard joint formula without unbiased published back-up (*of course there is always a chance that their claims are true). The truth is that glucosamine and chondroitin are not very bioavailable for cartilage-support as we had all hoped. It likely won't hurt you but to expect benefits especially within a month as you are hoping for is a stretch IMO.

Awesome post, this is exactly what I got out of Evil's posts too..

I am going to switch off hot and cold compresses, along with supporting with tape and sleeve. If need be, i'll tape up both for the comp (of course to not reveal injury).

Thanks again for the great post