Gone Zero Carb.

[CC's left foot]

Originally Posted by turbozed

Well at least one of those 'proven facts' is wrong for me personally.

I got backed up noticeably when i switched to my hi-protein diet. Enough so that I bought the fiber from Costco.

It's possible that your body had not acclimated to the diet, or that you weren't intaking enough fat. This is a high fat diet.

There are many people who are eating this way who have no bowel problems, including me.

[CC's left foot]

Originally Posted by jadasi

PFFT i just read that article ... that diet was from the 60's And they use lots and lots of green vegetables plus added supplements... I was sorta right, its a sculpting diet for comp and not ment to be followed all the time!

Also you may want to consider the juice factor some of these athletes may or may not have been into ....

you sir are misguided

This is a scientific diet, based on theory that has accumulated over the past 150 years. It is NOT outdated in the least.

Pick up GCBC by Taubes if you disagree, all the science is there.

[CC's left foot]

Originally Posted by Rowan11088

If all the nutrients you needed were in meat and fat, then there would be no such thing as WATER-soluble vitamins.

Then riddle me this: Why are there historically multiple groups who ate this way, and had no deficiencies? There are plenty of people who are eating this way now for years with no vitamin deficiencies.

How is this possible?

[CC's left foot]

Originally Posted by anaconda

im sure a lot of you guys remember this thread: The 0 carb diet

It has tons of interesting info and lots of arguing about this very topic. Still, an informative thread.

Good luck TS, let us know how it goes.

thank you, I will continue to update as I go.

[chia]

Originally Posted by oyaji poi

Wouldn't you have to be sure to eat grass fed organic meat as well to get a more "natural" balance of nutrients? Sure the ancients may have gorged on meat but it was meat that had lived on natural food, not corn or ground up parts of other animals.

Haha, the truth is they probably never "gorged" either....depending on geography of course, most probably ate moderate amounts of meat and raw vegetables, with some groups probably eating less meat than the average person eats today. The game meats were also nutritionally different, plus no one ate for "performance" back then. They probably also went through periods of fasting and adapted to survive on a relatively small amount of food.

If you want to look at history, then compare the average lifespan of back then and now. Of course there are many other technological advances, but diet certainly played a role in overall health too. There is no proof that there weren't any deficienciesy, although I'm not saying there necessarily were, but even the Inuits today aren't the epitome of life extensionism or athletic performance, so why copy them? Just because people did things one way in the past doesn't mean it's the right or best way.

[MikeMartial]

I'm more open to this than I used to be, although if I were to do this I'd have serious concerns about where my meat and eggs were coming from, plus from an athletic point of view, I'd have concerns about performance. The obvious key has to be free range, organic, grass fed poultry and beef.

Keep us posted, CC. What would be really interesting would to have a set of baseline tests done, and then subsequent tests throughout your trial. Full lipids including small particle LDL, bodyfat, CRP, fasting glucose and insulin, etc etc.

Also, keep track of your macros using something like fitday.com. It'll be interesting to see daily intake, ratios, and macro breakdown.

[onezendad]

Say Hi to Scurvy for me.

[Toastytoy]

This is crazy and very interesting, please keep us posted.

[Higher Learning]

there is just not enough verifiable data on this diet and its not based on scientific 'facts' until there has been replicable experimentation and monitoring done under controlled conditions..

i would love you to keep us updated as well though as i think there i some validity to the theory

(side note: i could never, ever give up veggies and condiments, i would die without my spicy sauces and asian foods )

[turbozed]

Originally Posted by onezendad

Say Hi to Scurvy for me.

lolz