Cytomel and clenbueterol

[mjaay]

Anyone have any experience with these two either individually or in a stack?

I know a lot of people that swear by them but I am still skeptical.

My main questions would be, if you have/are using them what other over the counter supplements are you using with them and what have your overall results been?

My goal is fat loss and conditioning while still keeping a high level of strength and power.

Just a little background I was very competive in MMA, kickboxing and power lifting but am recovering from a nasty string of work injuries that have me fat and slow.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[easternbloc7]

As with any oral steroid, you should supplement a liver support like milk thistle. I don't have personal experience though.

[Brampton_Boy]

Clen isn't actually a 17aa steroid, so its not liver toxic like Dianabol or Winstrol.

A full profile on the drug can be found here: Clenbuterol

The write up for T3 (Cytomel)
T3-Cytomel

Assuming you live in the states, your best bet is to purchase it from a research chemical site.

With that being said, given your background as a strength athlete, a solid diet and muscle memory will wonders on its own.

I've heard some horror stories about Clen, and it's something I would personally never touch.

[easternbloc7]

Originally Posted by Brampton_Boy

Clen isn't actually a 17aa steroid, so its not liver toxic like Dianabol or Winstrol.

A full profile on the drug can be found here: Clenbuterol

The write up for T3 (Cytomel)
T3-Cytomel

Assuming you live in the states, your best bet is to purchase it from a research chemical site.

With that being said, given your background as a strength athlete, a solid diet and muscle memory will wonders on its own.

I've heard some horror stories about Clen, and it's something I would personally never touch.

Well ain't that somethin'!
Yeah, I've heard some Clen horror stories, as well. One of the side effects is that you can get symptoms of Parkinsons (according to Danny Bonaduce).

[Admles]

Don't touch clenbueterol, I used to train with a guy who had taken it when he was younger. He said you had to drink like 20 litres of water a day while on it, and while it made you ripped to the bone, it fucked up his m.e.t.abolism later in life. That and all the serious cramping makes him wish he'd never done it.

[ozzie]

From Lyle Mcdonald.

Calorie Partitioning: Part 1 | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
In contrast, when you diet, it’s actually better to be insulin resistant (note that two of the most effective diet drugs, GH and clenbuterol/ephedrine cause insulin resistance).

[oyaji poi]

Originally Posted by ozzie

From Lyle Mcdonald.

Calorie Partitioning: Part 1 | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
In contrast, when you diet, it’s actually better to be insulin resistant (note that two of the most effective diet drugs, GH and clenbuterol/ephedrine cause insulin resistance).

He (Lyle McDonald) went off on Alwyn Cosgrove about stealing intellectual property in relation to his body recomposition products. One of his latest blog entries.