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Old 05-08-2008, 06:58 PM   #21 (permalink)

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Damn dude sorry to offend you.. I asked about the supplements because I would like to know more about them and now I do so thanks.. I said in an earlier post that I like the veggie shake deal and I am gonna try that out.. I also asked what kind of foods would be a good swap for my lameass lunch sandwhiches, but didn't get much response..I am definately gonna be changing my diet dude...People talk about "good fats" and I don't know much about them, but I'm gonna check out the links those dudes posted also and see if I can find more info...Like I said..my main problem is that I have to prepare my food for work cuz I'm on a boat and I get lazy alot and just go with the turkey and bread lol...
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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BLOCK, the best bit of advice I can give you is listen to people like Vedic, MikeMartial, KingKabuki, David Barr, Justin Harris, etc and even more importantly, read the FAQ. There is a shitload of valuable info in there. Follow all those links, and read & learn. I thought I knew all I needed to know about nutrition before I came here. Now I realize I've learned more in the last 6 months or so than I knew before and I'm still woefully ignorant on the subject.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:24 PM   #23 (permalink)

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^^ yeah I have no problem admitting I know nothing about my diet.. Thats why I'm asking for help ;) Not sure wht that dude is pissed off at me I am very thankful for his advice on the diet and on the supplements.. I want to toss those supps in the trash if they are really hindering me from gaining weight..
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another question.. you guys said to keep the yolks...I am willing to try this, but everyone has always told me that the yolk is mostly just cholesterol...? Can someone explain this..?
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Mix a whole bunch of spinach (~2 cups) or less spinach + some broccoli in with your protein shakes. You can hardly taste them at all. That's how I stomach the majority of my veggies. Though, not all veggies go without taste when blended - I tried lettuce & carrots once when I was out of spinach/broccoli and it tasted like ass.

you use raw or steamed in the shakes..? Does it change the taste.>? I'm off to the store 2nite to buy a bunch of both..
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WHFoods: The World's Healthiest Foods
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What about organic peanut butter? I put that on celery for some of my Protein+Fat meals. How much more beneficial would it to be to just go with something like raw almonds?
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you use raw or steamed in the shakes..? Does it change the taste.>? I'm off to the store 2nite to buy a bunch of both..
Always raw (convenience). Though, I was just reading about the nutrients of spinach..look at this:

Cooked or raw? Both have their advantages. Whereas cooking reduces Vitamin C and folate levels, it simultaneously boosts beta-carotein and lutein bioavailability. A sensible idea is to have it both ways. Have spinach raw in your lunch salads and cooked in your evening dinner, for example. Some varieties of spinach are rarely eaten raw, though baby spinach is common in salads. If cooked, it is best lightly steamed to preserve nutrients as much as possible.

And.. Spinach is best eaten fresh. It loses nutritional properties with each passing day. Although refrigeration slows the deterioration, half of the major nutrients are lost by the eighth day after harvest. (For long term storage, freeze while fresh.) When fresh, it has crisp leaves. As they deteriorate, the leaves turn limp. via SpinachWords.com

This worries me a little.. Most of the spinach I buy is packaged, pre-washed baby spinach - I wonder how "fresh" that really is.. The leaves aren't limp, though. I do go through it pretty fast.
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another question.. you guys said to keep the yolks...I am willing to try this, but everyone has always told me that the yolk is mostly just cholesterol...? Can someone explain this..?
I remember reading on these forums that was BS, though I'd wait for someone else to verify as well..
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Esh, I hope you don't mean the caffeine in superpump, lest the mad physiologist make a return to refute that notion for the thousandth time in his 6 years on the board.
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Always raw (convenience). Though, I was just reading about the nutrients of spinach..look at this:

Cooked or raw? Both have their advantages. Whereas cooking reduces Vitamin C and folate levels, it simultaneously boosts beta-carotein and lutein bioavailability. A sensible idea is to have it both ways. Have spinach raw in your lunch salads and cooked in your evening dinner, for example. Some varieties of spinach are rarely eaten raw, though baby spinach is common in salads. If cooked, it is best lightly steamed to preserve nutrients as much as possible.

And.. Spinach is best eaten fresh. It loses nutritional properties with each passing day. Although refrigeration slows the deterioration, half of the major nutrients are lost by the eighth day after harvest. (For long term storage, freeze while fresh.) When fresh, it has crisp leaves. As they deteriorate, the leaves turn limp. via SpinachWords.com

This worries me a little.. Most of the spinach I buy is packaged, pre-washed baby spinach - I wonder how "fresh" that really is.. The leaves aren't limp, though. I do go through it pretty fast.
Thanks for that info likkuid. I've just been eating it raw 100% of the time. Guess it's time to dig the steamer back out.

THIS may be the reason peanuts are left out. I know I won't eat it anymore. Now I prefer almond butter & cashew butter anyway.

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another question.. you guys said to keep the yolks...I am willing to try this, but everyone has always told me that the yolk is mostly just cholesterol...? Can someone explain this..?
Dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on blood cholesterol, and eggs actually mimic the effects of anti-cholesterol drugs. HERE is that thread.

Oh, and Vedic's not necessarily pissed at you. (I don't think) But ya gotta see it from his point of view. It did seem like you came in asking for advice and then didn't want to take it. Happens all the time, people come in here asking for help with something when all they really want is for everyone to agree with them and tell them they are doing right. People like that aren't worth wasting your time on, cause they're not listening with an open mind anyway.

Oh, and for future reference - Pretty much anything from Muscletech is overpriced garbage. Some are decent products, but not for the prices they charge. They take out 20 pages or so worth of full page ads in every bodybuilding & fitness mag on the racks and pass that expense on to you.
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