caffeine and inflammation

[a statistic]

does anyone know if there is a link between caffeine intake and increased inflammation? i have been having terrible shoulder pain for the last few months and have also recently switched to only caffeine as a pre-workout supp., from shotgun and xplode, with very similar results by the way.

the pain is the worst during and after chest workouts and is mainly on the outside and back of my shoulders.

i have to workout at 430am and drink a large cup of coffee on the way to the gym. would caffeine capsules be better for any reason?

thanks

[Yep.]

I drink about a pot of coffee a day and have never experienced the aforementioned problems, although it could vary from person to person.

Perhaps seeing a doctor would be the most reasonable choice in regard to this problem?

[BerserkPanda]

No there in no evidence of caffeine leading to inflammation, nor have I have ever read that on any of the forums I frequent.

Yes capsules would probably be better just imo, cheaper and more readily available.

Things I suggest not telling you to do:

1. Stop lifting heavy on any pressing for a month give it a break, besides from the info it looks like you been going heavy for a while. Might as well break the plateau and go light, also to reduce the pain obviously.

2. Super Cissus Rx / Fish Oil / Gluc I am sure you have heard of these supp. and they are essential to joint health. I take rougly 5-7g of FishOil a day.

I can already notice the lubrication in my joints. Super Cissus Rx worked within a few days, I have had the same shoulder problem. Just go light.

3. Pullups help shoulder realignment. I generally always warmup the shoulder/rotat.cuff and definitely see improvement in the joint.

[Rowan11088]

You probably have some muscle imbalances affecting the shoulder joint. I'm no expert so I won't claim to be able to diagnose you from what you've said, but what is your routine? Too much benching and not enough pressing is usually a bad sign, as is bad form on ANY exercise.

[Goat Meal]

It sounds like you have shoulder bursitis. Go see a doctor. Quit pressing for a while. Take some time off until you can see your doctor. Take it from me, the more you exercise on a messed up shoulder the longer it will heal.

[Athletix]

Originally Posted by a statistic

does anyone know if there is a link between caffeine intake and increased inflammation? i have been having terrible shoulder pain for the last few months and have also recently switched to only caffeine as a pre-workout supp., from shotgun and xplode, with very similar results by the way.

the pain is the worst during and after chest workouts and is mainly on the outside and back of my shoulders.

i have to workout at 430am and drink a large cup of coffee on the way to the gym. would caffeine capsules be better for any reason?

thanks

The opposite is actually true. Here you go:


Coffee consumption and markers of inflammation and endothelial dysfunction in healthy and diabetic women1,2,3
Esther Lopez-Garcia, Rob M van Dam, Lu Qi and Frank B Hu

1 From the Departments of Nutrition (EL-G, RMvD, LQ, and FBH) and Epidemiology (FBH), Harvard School of Public Health and the Channing Laboratory (FBH), Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA

Background: In several short-term studies, coffee consumption has been associated with impairment of endothelial function.

Objective: The objective was to assess the relation between long-term caffeinated and decaffeinated filtered coffee consumption and markers of inflammation and endothelial dysfunction.

Design: We conducted a cross-sectional study of 730 healthy women and 663 women with type 2 diabetes from the Nurses’ Health Study I cohort, who were aged 43–70 y and free of cardiovascular disease and cancer at the time blood was drawn (1989–1990). Dietary intake was assessed with a validated food-frequency questionnaire in 1986 and 1990.

Results: About 77% of the healthy women consumed ≥1 cup (237 mL) caffeinated coffee/mo and 75% consumed ≥1 cup decaffeinated coffee/mo; the corresponding intakes for women with type 2 diabetes were 74% and 63%, respectively. In healthy women, no appreciable differences in plasma concentrations of the markers were found across categories of caffeinated coffee intake. In women with type 2 diabetes, higher caffeinated coffee consumption was associated with lower plasma concentrations of E-selectin (adjusted percentage change per 1 cup/d increment = –3.2%; P = 0.05) and C-reactive protein (adjusted percentage change = –10.2%; P < 0.001). Higher decaffeinated coffee consumption was associated with lower plasma concentrations of E-selectin (adjusted percentage change = –2.5%; P = 0.08) and C-reactive protein (adjusted percentage change = –7.9%; P = 0.02) only in healthy women. The results were similar when we also adjusted the models for other dietary factors and blood lipids and when we excluded participants with hypertension or hypercholesterolemia.

Conclusions: These results indicate that neither caffeinated nor decaffeinated filtered coffee has a detrimental effect on endothelial function. In contrast, the results suggest that coffee consumption is inversely associated with markers of inflammation and endothelial dysfunction.

[a statistic]

Originally Posted by Rowan11088

You probably have some muscle imbalances affecting the shoulder joint. I'm no expert so I won't claim to be able to diagnose you from what you've said, but what is your routine? Too much benching and not enough pressing is usually a bad sign, as is bad form on ANY exercise.

i have actually been doin almost 100% dumbells on all of my chest and shoulder exercises for the last year. i usually get in a split workout, 2 bodyparts, 4-5 times a week. i will probably get dog piled for it, have before, but it works for me.

this morning was only my 4th workout in the last 15 days, due to a vacation and some child care issues. i did shoulders and they hurt like a mf'er doing db press, which is hasnt been normal. they usually hurt the first few sets then they dont bother me, but today it never went away.

thanks for the info tho fellas, i will probably start toning down my chest exercises and see if that helps.

[ThanosGuantlet]

Originally Posted by Yep.

I drink about a pot of coffee a day and have never experienced the aforementioned problems, although it could vary from person to person.

Perhaps seeing a doctor would be the most reasonable choice in regard to this problem?

Same.

[LeetOwnage]

Originally Posted by a statistic

i have actually been doin almost 100% dumbells on all of my chest and shoulder exercises for the last year. i usually get in a split workout, 2 bodyparts, 4-5 times a week. i will probably get dog piled for it, have before, but it works for me.

this morning was only my 4th workout in the last 15 days, due to a vacation and some child care issues. i did shoulders and they hurt like a mf'er doing db press, which is hasnt been normal. they usually hurt the first few sets then they dont bother me, but today it never went away.

thanks for the info tho fellas, i will probably start toning down my chest exercises and see if that helps.

I know as a white belt my word probably carries little/no weight, but I have had a lot of issues with my shoulder over the past 4-5 years. I have recently started taking glucosamine and fish oil, which have helped my problems a lot. The best thing I ever did was go to the doctor and figure out exactly WTF the issue was. It could be a bunch of different things, but a doctor (obviously) will tell you what the issue is pretty quickly.

If you don't want to go to a doctor (like me for a while), I would suggest good warm ups and a lot of stretching. Do you ice or take anti-inflammatory medicine after work outs? That might be a good short term solution.

[JSN]

i've never heard of that, but i think it can make you tense, prolly due to the way your body ends up cycling dopamine. that could be adverse for healing, or you could even just be clenching up and using some pain.