[MikeMartial]

Originally Posted by King Kabuki

Now, I'll leave you guys with that for the moment until I can get to the more detailed info I have. Because there's some studies that show where beta-alinine out-performed creatine and why. The magic to BA is not mega-dosing though, as much as it is carb-loading.

Carb-loading it turns out is a magical thing. I've been saying I was going to make a thread on something pretty special recently, it's carb-loading. I'll do it sooner or later but basically it goes like this:

Take any amino that don't do shit on it's own, stick it with carbs, and magic happens. That's not to be said for all aminos, but most of them.

Looking forward to hearing more about BA and carbs.

[erco]

I've been taking this for a few workouts now. Coincidentally, those workouts have been pretty shit. Do I blame variability, CNS burnout, and being a weak-willed pussy? No, I blame Beta-Alanine entirely.

[Hbs6]

Originally Posted by erco

I've been taking this for a few workouts now. Coincidentally, those workouts have been pretty shit. Do I blame variability, CNS burnout, and being a weak-willed pussy? No, I blame Beta-Alanine entirely.

well, thats a little strange to me cuz i think the stuff is great. And i find it hard to believe that just adding an amino acid and changing nothing else and having it make your workouts go to total shit. You sure nothing else has changed?

[erco]

Originally Posted by Hbs6

well, thats a little strange to me cuz i think the stuff is great. And i find it hard to believe that just adding an amino acid and changing nothing else and having it make your workouts go to total shit. You sure nothing else has changed?

I was being a smartass.

[fat_wilhelm]

Only a couple weeks in, but so far, I like it muy bueno.

[Hbs6]

Originally Posted by erco

I was being a smartass.

lol i was just reading through this page again and then caught the sarcasm, my bad.

[Hbs6]

Originally Posted by fat_wilhelm

Only a couple weeks in, but so far, I like it muy bueno.

it should just get better too, we are still far off from the saturation point

[Art Vandelay]

I will be doing a trial of Beta-Alanine and Cissus, both bulk sourced. Hopefully this will be a more consistent trial than my interrupted BCAA trial. For my trial, the focus will be grappling and striking. If I am able to lift more than 1x a week, then it will be miraculous and you'll all be hearing about it.

As far as, "the next creatine" goes, I'm hoping for at least something. I can't feel a difference recovery or performance wise from 5g creatine daily, I just do it because of all the trials and published reports.

[MikeMartial]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

I will be doing a trial of Beta-Alanine and Cissus, both bulk sourced. Hopefully this will be a more consistent trial than my interrupted BCAA trial. For my trial, the focus will be grappling and striking. If I am able to lift more than 1x a week, then it will be miraculous and you'll all be hearing about it.

Looking forward to hearing about it, Art. This is more along the lines of the way I train, so I'll be closely watching how things go with you.

[oyaji poi]

Originally Posted by MikeMartial

Well, parethesia and the brain is a non-issue, but the fact it blocks GABA re-uptake should make it, potentially, a nootropic. But there's so many variable actions of the neurotrasmitters and receptor sites in the brain, so who knows.

So far, it looks promising, though, the more I read about it.

potentially a nootropic huh? I'm planning on starting the Madcow or Bill Starr 5*5 in two weeks, with the BA and "free" creatine from biotest, and using it for at least 8 weeks. But I usually take something before working out, either Spike or MRM Driven. Would there be an issue with that, or even taking it with caffeine?

I'm 84kg (185lb) and plan to take 7g a day. Does that sound about right, based on Monger's posts?