[uzbekistanian]

i'm thinking of ordering some taurine to take with my beta alanine just in case

[JRT6]

I've been using the powder that DevilsSon recommended and it really works but I seem to have a low tolerance for it becauase every time I take it my head feels funny and it puts me in a bad and anxious mood.

I don't get that effect at all with the Biotest.

[cellmass25]

Anyone try 8beta anabaol- its primarily a BA powder with some aminos and other stuff i dont remember.... would neone recomend this over straight BA powder?

[MikeMartial]

I had another episode of nausea today after taking BA; I was heading out for breakfast, so I took my 5g of BA mixed with black coffee and 25g of whey, along with 5g of creatine. Not exactly an empty stomach, but no solid food. I also had a teaspoon of fish oil, 50mg Vitamin C, and a cal/mag tab.

By the time we hit the restaurant, I was pasty white, and had zero appetite. About 45 minutes later I was perfectly fine. I ended up finishing my meal, but about 20 minutes after my wife. I generally inhale my food at an alarming rate.

Conclusion: From now on, I'll be taking BA with solid food, or within an hour of ingesting solids; the nausea may just be the body's way of interpreting parathesia of the GI tract, but nonetheless, it fucking sucks. IMO, I don't believe it's a carb and/or protein issue, but a rate of absorption issue.

[furdog]

Originally Posted by MikeMartial

I had another episode of nausea today after taking BA; I was heading out for breakfast, so I took my 5g of BA mixed with black coffee and 25g of whey, along with 5g of creatine. Not exactly an empty stomach, but no solid food. I also had a teaspoon of fish oil, 50mg Vitamin C, and a cal/mag tab.

By the time we hit the restaurant, I was pasty white, and had zero appetite. About 45 minutes later I was perfectly fine. I ended up finishing my meal, but about 20 minutes after my wife. I generally inhale my food at an alarming rate.

Conclusion: From now on, I'll be taking BA with solid food, or within an hour of ingesting solids; the nausea may just be the body's way of interpreting parathesia of the GI tract, but nonetheless, it fucking sucks. IMO, I don't believe it's a carb and/or protein issue, but a rate of absorption issue.

Have you read the studies on beta-alanine at all? lol

The problem is not to do with eating food with it. I haven't read any of the posts in this thread or anything but it should be abundantly clear if you've looked at the studies that there is some type of reaction (maybe histamine) when taking higher doses all at once. That's why the time released version was made. And that's why the studies dose it 4-8 per day minimum.

Wow.

[furdog]

Originally Posted by MikeMartial

So, now this brings up the question: Why the heck is Ross recommending it? Between this and glutamine, I think I'll stick to Berardi for supplement recommendations in the future...

Don't listen to either for supplement information. Just pull up studies. Ross is a great guy, but his specialty is training, not diet and nutrition.

Berardi is worse than a nut job; he's only respected by this forum on Sherdog where people don't know anything. You should see his articles on food combining (LOL).

[Newt]

Originally Posted by MikeMartial

I had another episode of nausea today after taking BA; I was heading out for breakfast, so I took my 5g of BA mixed with black coffee and 25g of whey, along with 5g of creatine. Not exactly an empty stomach, but no solid food. I also had a teaspoon of fish oil, 50mg Vitamin C, and a cal/mag tab.

By the time we hit the restaurant, I was pasty white, and had zero appetite. About 45 minutes later I was perfectly fine. I ended up finishing my meal, but about 20 minutes after my wife. I generally inhale my food at an alarming rate.

Conclusion: From now on, I'll be taking BA with solid food, or within an hour of ingesting solids; the nausea may just be the body's way of interpreting parathesia of the GI tract, but nonetheless, it fucking sucks. IMO, I don't believe it's a carb and/or protein issue, but a rate of absorption issue.

I haven't been taking it regularly (i.e., daily or at every workout), or with any set routine (empty or full-stomach, etc.), but I usually still get the niacin like hot-flashes no matter what and sometimes a bit of the runs (I know, I know - TMI ) later in the day. Other than that, I don't think I have had any pasty white episodes. And I am usually stacking it with creatine and aminos at the same time.

[thethirddiaz]

Originally Posted by furdog

Don't listen to either for supplement information. Just pull up studies. Ross is a great guy, but his specialty is training, not diet and nutrition.

Berardi is worse than a nut job; he's only respected by this forum on Sherdog where people don't know anything. You should see his articles on food combining (LOL).

Not everyone has the time to "just pull up the studies" on every dietary topic. If Berardi is so bad (yes I disagree with you), can you suggest somewhere else we should be looking for easy to read, informative articles on nutrition?

Edit: I see you are trashing Berardi in other threads, too. Are you going to just troll or provide some facts to back up what you are saying?

[furdog]

Originally Posted by thethirddiaz

Not everyone has the time to "just pull up the studies" on every dietary topic. If Berardi is so bad (yes I disagree with you), can you suggest somewhere else we should be looking for easy to read, informative articles on nutrition?

Yeah, if you want to guarantee that you are getting something right, read it yourself and don't take it on faith. If you take someone else's recommendations on faith and they are wrong, you will also be wrong.

And yeah, you've got the time to read a study on beta alanine if you're going to spend money on it and browse these forums and discuss it. Might as well use that time productively in figuring out if it works, rather than just BSing with a lot of people who are like, "I hear it's good bro." This issue isn't time, it's your lazyness. Just man up and admit it: You don't want to expend the mental effort to figure it out.

Edit: I see you are trashing Berardi in other threads, too. Are you going to just troll or provide some facts to back up what you are saying?

Why would I have to "pull up facts" to prove an arbitrary claim is wrong? If he says you must eat 8 meals a day, let him show a study for it first. Otherwise it's arbitrary. The same if he said there are magical wood nymphs that increase your strength if you pray to them. I don't need to "pull up facts" to prove that wrong, he needs to provide some evidence for it first.

Food combining has been bullshit from the start. Do you think Berardi is some genius who invented a new way of eating we didn't evolve with, that he's pioneering eating with some crap he dreamed up in the last few years? It's just a variant on the fallacy that insulin is the only thing that matters in getting someone fat. Boring and old.

Multiple Meals: Fact is, there is no study out there that is calorically/intake controlled that shows multiple small meals per day are superior to three or four larger ones. Especially taking into account digestion time is slowed and stomach retention time is longer with larger meals.

[furdog]

Originally Posted by Newt

I haven't been taking it regularly (i.e., daily or at every workout), or with any set routine (empty or full-stomach, etc.), but I usually still get the niacin like hot-flashes no matter what and sometimes a bit of the runs (I know, I know - TMI ) later in the day. Other than that, I don't think I have had any pasty white episodes. And I am usually stacking it with creatine and aminos at the same time.

It's amazing what people will put up with just because a horribly flawed study funded by EAS was published.

This link will help you. And to the guy who asked who you should worship instead of Berardi. Well, you shouldn't worship anyone but this guy will do:

http://evidencebasedfitness.blogspot...label/creatine

Although Ross isn't a supplement and nutrition genius, he has the right attitude. People are always looking for the next bottle of bullshit they can buy. Why can't you guys wait until a number of studies are posted on a compound, like with creatine? It's laughable what I see going on in this forum, people talking about taking citrulline malate where one non-placebo controlled human study was done on men performing finger exercises. Haha. So many people will shell out their money just because they heard something is "new."