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I know I'm in the minority here as most of the psoters here stay away from thermogenics like the plague, and with good reason, but I would say to look in to USP Labs Recreate. I got a free bottle to try and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. It has killed my appetite. I'm still training hard and that usually causes me to be ravenous at al times, but this has completely killed food cravings, and I feel full faster. I've tried a lot fo different thermogenics in the past and nothing made a difference to me. This is the only weight loss product I've ever taken that has done anything for me, and the efect is noticeable.
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-Mark Rippetoe
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