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10-12-2009, 10:23 AM
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10-12-2009, 10:44 AM
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Dr. William Davis ( The Heart Scan Blog) had a blog post once about whether or not eating meat is healthy. Though he seemed to WANT to say that it's not, based on his ethical reasoning, he said if he's actually honest with himself and others, it's a no-brainer. Eating some animal meat is optimal for the human body. Not 'bad' and 'toxic' like some disingenuous authors/bloggers might have one believe.
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10-12-2009, 11:10 AM
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I've recently switched from being a vegetarian to being an omnivore.
Feels good, man.
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10-12-2009, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuru
A woman i know became a vegetarian because her village was burned when she was young, and the smell of burning flesh put her off meat for life.
She doesn't come across as a hippy retard queer though.
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OK then, she's cool.. but any vegetarian who hasn't smelled the burning flesh of their dying family as his/her village was burned to the ground is a hippy retard queer.
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10-12-2009, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gavanshir
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks bobthebuilder for your diet. I've been a vege for about 2 weeks now and so far it's been great. I feel much lighter and haven't had any digestion problems whatsoever. The only problem may be that I'm eating more carbs since I believe protein takes longer to breakdown in the stomach and keeps you fuller.
I'll have a chance to try out tofurkey tomorrow since it's Thanksgiving in Canada. Thanks for the advice and please keep them coming. It's a shame that vegetarians are turned away from this forum since I frequently visited before I became a vege and would like to continue to do so.
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my bust. hey, feel free to shoot me a pm anytime with specific questions.
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10-12-2009, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Loomy
being vegetarian is fine, but you don't do it for the health reasons. you do it because you don't like killing other animals, or wasting the resources it takes to make meat.
a third reason you might go veg is because of how screwed up by industry some meat is. but you can combat that by buying local organic meat. (the animal still died a horrible death, and it still took a lot of gas to make him, and it costs more money than mass produced meat, but at least it isnt screwed with quite like mass produced meat is)
vegan athletes can still perform well.
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What does it matter why they went vegetarian? A veg diet can be extremely healthy or it could be the worst diet ever based on the food choices. Same as a omni diet it could be a healthy diet or it could be like most people's diet in the west and be complete crap. i'd say 50 percent of vegans look like crap like around 50 or slighty higher percent of Omni people look like crap. People like to point at this vegan or this vegan that isn't doing well and say "wow look at them" Check out Walmart if you wanto see what i poor omni diets does lol
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10-12-2009, 09:56 PM
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The end result is that people are idiots who by and large don't put much thought into their food choices and become unhealthy and weak as a result. You CAN do well on a plethora of diets (some requiring more effort and research than others) but most people will not because they lack the discipline, energy, and desire to do so. SHOULD you be vegan or vegetarian? it'd never work for me because of the COMBINATION of who I am as a person and my dietary requirements for performance. I eat to live, not the other way around and I don't want to spend endless time making sure I hit all my dietary marks with one nutritional hand tied behind my back. IN MY OPINION, omnivore is the way to go, with an emphasis on grass fed red meats, organic poultry, and wild game when you can get it. that's what works for me, that's what's worked for human beings for HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of years, but that's not to say we don't now have the opportunity to change our dietary habits. We do.
You can now make a conscious choice to be fruitarian, vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian or any other limiting diet, AND be healthy, but I consider the amount of time and deprivation required of such a decision, for me personally, too much. I spend an hour a day cooking and an hour a day training, an the rest of my day trying to have a life. At different and overlapping points in my life the time spent on training and food became more than the time spent with play and relaxation, and I don't live to eat or live to train. I train and eat to live and live well. I strive to minimize how much the actions meant to improve the quality of my life consume it or limit it.
so I say eat like a cave man, lift heavy, shoot eachother with airsoft guns, enjoy the occasional cigar, wrestle with friends, love deeply, live simply, and enjoy the good times when you have them. and don't sweat it! life is supposed to be FUN.
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Find yourself in a maniac's mind: carnivorous, lusting and fulfilled by the the atrocities you commit. Be assured in your dominance. Lick your canines and incisors, and smile. Now lift.
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10-12-2009, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban
The end result is that people are idiots who by and large don't put much thought into their food choices and become unhealthy and weak as a result. You CAN do well on a plethora of diets (some requiring more effort and research than others) but most people will not because they lack the discipline, energy, and desire to do so. SHOULD you be vegan or vegetarian? it'd never work for me because of the COMBINATION of who I am as a person and my dietary requirements for performance. I eat to live, not the other way around and I don't want to spend endless time making sure I hit all my dietary marks with one nutritional hand tied behind my back. IN MY OPINION, omnivore is the way to go, with an emphasis on grass fed red meats, organic poultry, and wild game when you can get it. that's what works for me, that's what's worked for human beings for HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of years, but that's not to say we don't now have the opportunity to change our dietary habits. We do.
You can now make a conscious choice to be fruitarian, vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian or any other limiting diet, AND be healthy, but I consider the amount of time and deprivation required of such a decision, for me personally, too much. I spend an hour a day cooking and an hour a day training, an the rest of my day trying to have a life. At different and overlapping points in my life the time spent on training and food became more than the time spent with play and relaxation, and I don't live to eat or live to train. I train and eat to live and live well. I strive to minimize how much the actions meant to improve the quality of my life consume it or limit it.
so I say eat like a cave man, lift heavy, shoot eachother with airsoft guns, enjoy the occasional cigar, wrestle with friends, love deeply, live simply, and enjoy the good times when you have them. and don't sweat it! life is supposed to be FUN.
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Fucking epically accurate post. I'm toasting you right now with a couple o' fingers of Maker's Mark, with my in-laws looking on in confusion.
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10-12-2009, 10:45 PM
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Well-said, Urban!
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10-12-2009, 11:21 PM
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Like Urban said man, eat how you want to eat based on how much effort you want to put in. If you feel like you can spend time looking for extra proteins and fats then go for it and be a vegetarian. Its your life, live it by your own rules.
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