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11-03-2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I apologize if I missed this, but I assume your wife's 25(OH)D levels are responding to lower dosages(than yours) because she's smaller than you?
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Well, she is smaller than me, but going on the 1000iu per 25lbs BW, she should be at around 5000iu. Dosing in relation to 25(OH)D levels is a very individualistic. Men, for whatever reason, generally require more. Dr. Davis has some input on this here:
Vitamin D dose needs to be individualized. Factors that influence vitamin D need include body size and percent body fat (both of which increase need substantially); sex (males require, on average, 1000 units per day more than females); age (older need more); skin color (darker-skinned races require more, fairer-skinned races less); and other factors that remain ill-defined.
But these are “rules” often broken. My office experience with vitamin D now numbers nearly 1000 patients. The average female dose is 4000-5000 units per day, average male dose 6000 units per day to achieve a blood level of 60-70 ng/ml, though there are frequent exceptions. I’ve had 98 lb women who require 12,000 units, 300 lb men who require 1000 units, 21-year olds who require 10,000 units. (Of course, this is a Wisconsin experience. However, regional differences in dosing needs diminish as we age, since less and less vitamin D activation occurs.)
Let me reiterate: Steroid hormone-vitamin D dose needs to be individualized.
There’s only one way to individualize your need for vitamin D and thereby determine your dose: Measure a blood level.
Nobody can gauge your vitamin D need by looking at you, by your skin color, size, or other simple measurement like weight or body fat. A vitamin D blood level needs to be measured specifically─period.
I'd actually like to get her into the 60-70ng/mL range, but she's already bitching about taking a "handful" of pills a day.
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11-04-2009, 09:56 AM
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Thanks.
LOL @ 'handful' of pills.
Every morning I put 1 multi, 1 fish oil cap, and 1 vitamin d cap on the table for my wife to take and she bitches every single time.
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11-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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Anyone know at what levels of supplementation calcium being deposited in the arteries and organs could become a concern if is even more than scientific speculation?
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11-04-2009, 11:38 AM
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Anyone know at what levels of supplementation calcium being deposited in the arteries and organs could become a concern if is even more than scientific speculation?
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11-06-2009, 09:46 AM
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Why vitamin D may prevent H1N1 | Prevention | Get Healthy | Best Health
Nothing new there, but right when I saw the headline I knew it would be about Vitamin D. This stuff is like the new fish oil or something. Everytime I open the newspaper or go online it seems there's something pushing it.
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11-08-2009, 01:54 PM
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Any of you guys experiment with the Stoss method of dosing? Basically one mega-dose per week?
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11-08-2009, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
Any of you guys experiment with the Stoss method of dosing? Basically one mega-dose per week?
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Since the half-life of D3 is between 30-60 days, technically you could mega-dose at farther intervals; the rise and fall of one's 25(OH)D levels would be more acute, versus smaller daily dosing, though.
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11-08-2009, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeMartial
Since the half-life of D3 is between 30-60 days, technically you could mega-dose at farther intervals; the rise and fall of one's 25(OH)D levels would be more acute, versus smaller daily dosing, though.
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I think that problem I discussed with you is actually a mild chest cold or something. After I workout it seems to worsen. I called my doctor but he's pretty much booked up solid for a while and the walk in clinics are insane.
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11-09-2009, 01:21 PM
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New post by Dr Davis on optimal 25(OH)D levels:
So do we really know the truly ideal level of vitamin D to achieve? I believe that, given the above observations, it is reasonable to extrapolate that the ideal vitamin D blood level likely lies somewhere above 50 ng/ml. We also know that vitamin D toxicity (i.e., hypercalcemia) is virtually unheard of until vitamin D blood levels approach 150 ng/ml, and even then is inconsistent. The health benefits of vitamin D supplementation are so tremendous, that I am not willing to wait for the prospective data to explore this question fully. For now, I aim for a blood level of vitamin D of 60-70 ng/ml (150-175 nmol/L).
The Heart Scan Blog: What is a healthy vitamin D blood level?
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11-12-2009, 02:29 PM
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So without blood analysis one can not be sure about how much they should take vitamin D?
1000 IU of vitamin D is 25 ug.
I get about 5 ug from milk daily. I just bought some 10 ug D-vitamin pills. So if I take 2 of those every day I get the 1000 IU. That may be a bit low?
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