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Old 11-26-2007, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Wrestler "hitting the wall" in 1st matches

I'm a wrestler and I "Hit the wall" or bonk during my first match of the tournament. I don't know why.

I don't eat the morning of the competition and just have a cup of coffee.

I do about 20 min of cardio to warm up for a match. Usually I'm really nervous and go to the bathroom 1 or 2 times (the runs).

Am I too nervous?

I've heard bike riders can "bonk" after not eating but would that effect a wrestler.

Is it a combination of nerves and no eating?

I'm in really good shape. I do all kinds of anaerobic and aerobic training. In practice I can wrestle up to 1 hr hard. A 2 hr hard practice is nothing for me. I've got ripped abs and do all kinds of conditioning.

I do 30-40 min hill sprints three times a week.

I do Guerilla Cardio three times a week.

4-5 bike rides 2 x week

combined with all my wrestling workouts. Nobody in the matroom an believe my cardio because I can just keep going.

What is my problem?
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Eat some food, man. And relax! Nerves = tension = fatigue
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"bonk" lol. yeh, eat. competition is especially draining. eat as u normally would before any other practice session.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're not eating because you need to make weight, that's fine, but you need to get some GOOD, HEALTHY food in you before you step on the mat.

My pre-match meal usually consisted of white rice or pasta, a banana and then I'd sip water and honey (from a plastic honey bottle) until it was time to warm up. If you're dropping water weight, you need to replace it.

There are lots of different ways to prepare for a tourny. If your hitting the wall with your current method, it's time to try another.

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Old 11-26-2007, 06:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i feel nerves play a huge roll in it. ive been confused before as well as i didnt feel my conditioning was up to par with where it was during practices when i was more dehydrated than during the match.

My coach just told me to chill out and listen to music while staying warmed up and after a while it just kind of went away.

Ermm hope that helped.


and please dont mention your ripped abs again.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)

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If you're not eating because you need to make weight, that's fine, but you need to get some GOOD, HEALTHY food in you before you step on the mat.

My pre-match meal usually consisted of white rice or pasta, a banana and then I'd sip water and honey (from a plastic honey bottle) until it was time to warm up. If you're dropping water weight, you need to replace it.
Agreed - this may help - it is an excerpt from a performance nutrition course designed by ACSM and NATA....

Anaerobic Activities lasting less than 90 minutes (including rest periods)

Before exercise:
-Exercise of this duration does not require careful planning, but if time permits,
consume a low-fat, low-fiber meal with 100 to 300 grams of carbohydrate and
moderate amounts of protein 2 to 4 hours prior to activity
-Alternatively, a smaller meal or snack (liquid or solid) may be consumed 1 to 2
hours before activity as tolerated. This is important for exercise that occurs in
the morning, after an overnight fast.
-Consume 14 to 22 ounces of fluid two hours prior to exercise.
-Drink an additional 8-16 ounces of fluid 30 to 60 minutes prior to activity on hot
and/or humid days.
-If well tolerated, adult athletes can take creatine 45 minutes prior to exercise
with a meal replacement formula containing 25-45 grams of carbohydrate

During rest periods:
-sip 6-12 ounces of a beverage containing 4-8% carbohydrate (gatorade, gu gel, etc.)

I would attempt this protocol prior to an aggressive training session, and not prior to an actual competition since you want to be sure that this works for you.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:34 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Weigh in the day before so that you can eat. Something like a nice pasta dinner would be perfect as said above. Also don't over warm up, just make sure you are totally stretched and limber and have the blood flowing, just warm up enough to get a nice "glisten" lol. Relax and think about what you've done in practice, think about the mistakes your opponent may make and what your going to do to punish him for those mistakes. I've also heard of people taking a teaspoon of creatine a half hour or so before their match with some positive results.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:12 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Weigh in the day before so that you can eat. Something like a nice pasta dinner would be perfect as said above. Also don't over warm up, just make sure you are totally stretched and limber and have the blood flowing, just warm up enough to get a nice "glisten" lol. Relax and think about what you've done in practice, think about the mistakes your opponent may make and what your going to do to punish him for those mistakes. I've also heard of people taking a teaspoon of creatine a half hour or so before their match with some positive results.
Every HS wrestling tournament/match I was in had same day weigh-ins.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:03 PM   #9 (permalink)

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well, i think that your sig pretty much says it all. The mental aspect of wrestling is just as intense as it's physical nature, and for me it took longer to learn. Before, I couldn't eat anything before a wrestling match because i was afraid i would throw up. Now I can eat whatever and take naps between my matches. Since it sounds like you have good conditioning, what with your ripped abs, you should at least be confident that you can outlast your opponent. Enter as many tournaments as you can, and realize that a loss is not necessarily a bad thing. It's probably the single greatest teaching tool ever and I learned more from some of my losses than weeks of practice/drills. And above all, as cliche as it sounds, have fun doing what you enjoy. You might also want to read King Kabuki's "Mental Toughness" thread- lots of good info in there.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Since it sounds like you have good conditioning, what with your ripped abs,
I lol'd.
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