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06-25-2009, 02:31 AM
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Thanks for the info Eza, if I could add another question:
Why is a person's cardio slightly different each day?
Some days I'll start breathing harder after 20 minutes, some days when I have more energy I can run hard for an hour and my breathing won't have a significant increase.
thanks
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06-25-2009, 03:27 AM
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BayAreaGuy,
It happens because there are a ton of different components in energy production that flucuate daily in response to training, nutrition, sleep, stress, etc. You have to take into account that any time you train there will be acute effects, postponed effects, and accumulated effects from the stressor.
Each of the body's major systems, cardiovascular, pulmonary, central nervous, muscular, detoxification, hormonal, etc. all respond to stress and recover at different rates. When they are all recovered and able to perform effectively, then your energy production is good and you can run hard for an hour without breathing hard as you say.
When, on the other hand, any one of these systems are still affected by any of the influences listed above and is unable to perform it's function effectively, then your performance suffers as a result.
Any breakdown in the chain of energy production will result in decreased performances. Perhaps your cardiac system itself is overworked and fatigued, perhaps your muscles themselves are low on enzymes or substrates, perhaps you didn't get enough sleep the last few nights and your CNS is low, didn't eat right that day, or you've been mentally stressed from work and you're overly sympathetic. Who knows?
There are a million variables that affect how ready your many different systems are to perform and account for why your performance will fluctuate on a daily basis. The key to programming and management of training is manipulating all these variables as effectively as possible to allow impose stress and then allow for supercompensation on these different biological systems.
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Last edited by EZA; 06-28-2009 at 09:19 PM.
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06-25-2009, 07:07 PM
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^^^^
thanks a lot man, I enjoy reading your stuff
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06-26-2009, 01:55 PM
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BayAreaGay,
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>_>
Thanks for the interview Stephan, and thanks Joel for the follow up comments.
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06-26-2009, 02:18 PM
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Chaimberg mentioned how sport specific training can help aerobic trained athletes develop anaerobic power. Is the inverse also true? I can't imagine an athlete strictly avoiding any and all manners of 5+ minute rounds of strenuous activity and then thinking they'll be ok in the ring.
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06-26-2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by paolo27th
There`s a guy at my gym that does the same for me. He`s much smaller than me and doesn`t have particularly good technique but whenever I spar with him it kills me.
It`s just that if you push someone you expect to encounter some resistance, instead with this guy you don`t meet any. So you fall forward, go off balance and have to pull yourself back into position. You basically end up doing twice as much work.
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Despite you stating otherwise, that is good technique.
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06-26-2009, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eza
bayareagay,
it happens because there are a ton of different components in energy production that flucuate daily in response to training, nutrition, sleep, stress, etc. You have to take into account that any time you train there will be acute effects, postponed effects, and accumulated effects from the stressor.
Each of the body's major systems, cardiovascular, pulmonary, central nervous, muscular, detoxification, hormonal, etc. All respond to stress and recover at different rates. When they are all recovered and able to perform effectively, then your energy production is good and you can run hard for an hour without breathing hard as you say.
When, on the other hand, any one of these systems are still affected by any of the influences listed above and is unable to perform it's function effectively, then your performance suffers as a result.
Any breakdown in the chain of energy production will result in decreased performances. Perhaps your cardiac system itself is overworked and fatigued, perhaps your muscles themselves are low on enzymes or substrates, perhaps you didn't get enough sleep the last few nights and your cns is low, didn't eat right that day, or you've been mentally stressed from work and you're overly sympathetic. Who knows?
There are a million variables that affect how ready your many different systems are to perform and account for why your performance will fluctuate on a daily basis. The key to programming and management of training is manipulating all these variables as effectively as possible to allow impose stress and then allow for supercompensation on these different biological systems.
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lol
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06-26-2009, 08:42 PM
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Despite you stating otherwise, that is good technique.
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Maybe wrestling technique, since he`d beeen doing wrestling before. But it`s mma I`m talking about now, and in mma I can submit him and hit him at will.
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06-26-2009, 10:27 PM
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Maybe it's a good tactic that is surrounded by bad technique and bad habits? It seems like causing you to expend twice as much energy doing twice as much work would be counterproductive for you and productive for him in that single aspect.
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06-28-2009, 07:54 PM
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bayareagay,
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man wtf?
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