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06-15-2009, 10:27 AM
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Thx m8 for your comment , sparring is on other days , 2 times boxing sparring and 3 times mma sparring .
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It sounds good man, lots of good compound lifts and core work. I assume the barbell is an olympic barbell (20 kgs)?, so you have about 40 kgs overall weight on the bar?, how much do you weigh?.
Sorry for the questions just curious. Personally I was never a big fan of high rep schemes and found it more beneficial to do lower reps/heavier weights but that's just me. As I mentioned earlier, the only weighted work I now do is complexes and similar things. I tend to do a lot of burpees, distance running, hill sprints, complexes, chin ups and sport specific training for my cardio/endurance needs.
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06-15-2009, 10:34 AM
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Lol at 18lbs of muscle in one month!
Come on, we aren't 10 years old, so either you are lying or delusional.
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Are you so sure gaining 18 lbs in a month is impossible, even for someone who packs on muscle easily? Believe me, I wouldn't lie to impress you or anyone else on this forum.
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06-15-2009, 10:39 AM
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Are you so sure gaining 18 lbs in a month is impossible, even for someone who packs on muscle easily? Believe me, I wouldn't lie to impress you or anyone else on this forum.
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You said 18lbs of 'all muscle' - if that's what you meant then you are wrong.
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06-15-2009, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IronMaidenfan#1
You said 18lbs of 'all muscle' - if that's what you meant then you are wrong.
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If you understood the circumstances, I don't think you'd be so quick to call BS.
The weight I gained was all muscle. I had a six pack before, and I had a six pack after. If any of the weight was fat, you couldn't tell. I continued to gain weight after that, but at a much slower rate (as one would expect).
My circumstances at the time were ideal for rapid weight gain. I had just finished a very long period of careful rehab after shoulder surgery. Naturally, I'd dropped a lot of weight, since I wasn't able to squat, deadlift, or bench for almost a year. I had been doing more cardio than usual, and not eating very much.
In the fall of 2001 (my surgery was in December 2000), my doctor gave me the okay to lift heavy again. I was chomping at the bit to get strong again, so I dedicated every workout and every meal to getting bigger. I ate more protein than I'd ever eaten. I was working at a steakhouse at the time and ate steaks four times per week, in addition to whole cans of turkey or chicken for dinner. I was also eating eggs and protein powder for breakfast.
This was not a situation where you had a consistent lifter suddenly gaining 18 lbs in a month. What you did have was an experienced lifter, who gains muscle more easily than most, who had lost a lot of muscle due to a long break from lifting, who, upon beginning to lift heavy again, began eating a high protein, high calorie diet (I think I was using creatine too), getting plenty of rest, and lifting heavy six days per week.
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06-15-2009, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IronMaidenfan#1
It sounds good man, lots of good compound lifts and core work. I assume the barbell is an olympic barbell (20 kgs)?, so you have about 40 kgs overall weight on the bar?, how much do you weigh?.
Sorry for the questions just curious. Personally I was never a big fan of high rep schemes and found it more beneficial to do lower reps/heavier weights but that's just me. As I mentioned earlier, the only weighted work I now do is complexes and similar things. I tend to do a lot of burpees, distance running, hill sprints, complexes, chin ups and sport specific training for my cardio/endurance needs.
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ey i weigh around 165 and height 5,7
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06-15-2009, 12:26 PM
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ey i weigh around 165 and height 5,7
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That barbell weight sounds fine then, about 55% of your body weight, which is around fine for high rep stuff. Like I say, I prefer heavier weights, lower reps but each to their own.
Keep up the good stuff
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06-15-2009, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Houstoner
Under the right circumstances, it's easily possible. After a long break from lifting, I went from 178 to 196 in just one month of heavy lifting and eating, all muscle. Not that I cared at the time, but my cardio took a nose dive from all that extra weight.
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bullshit! 18lbs in one month???
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06-15-2009, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LetGodBeMyJudge
bullshit! 18lbs in one month??? 
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Read my other posts. Just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it can't happen.
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06-15-2009, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Houstoner
If you understood the circumstances, I don't think you'd be so quick to call BS.
The weight I gained was all muscle. I had a six pack before, and I had a six pack after. If any of the weight was fat, you couldn't tell. I continued to gain weight after that, but at a much slower rate (as one would expect).
My circumstances at the time were ideal for rapid weight gain. I had just finished a very long period of careful rehab after shoulder surgery. Naturally, I'd dropped a lot of weight, since I wasn't able to squat, deadlift, or bench for almost a year. I had been doing more cardio than usual, and not eating very much.
In the fall of 2001 (my surgery was in December 2000), my doctor gave me the okay to lift heavy again. I was chomping at the bit to get strong again, so I dedicated every workout and every meal to getting bigger. I ate more protein than I'd ever eaten. I was working at a steakhouse at the time and ate steaks four times per week, in addition to whole cans of turkey or chicken for dinner. I was also eating eggs and protein powder for breakfast.
This was not a situation where you had a consistent lifter suddenly gaining 18 lbs in a month. What you did have was an experienced lifter, who gains muscle more easily than most, who had lost a lot of muscle due to a long break from lifting, who, upon beginning to lift heavy again, began eating a high protein, high calorie diet (I think I was using creatine too), getting plenty of rest, and lifting heavy six days per week.
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you cant just take all that time off then go back and magically start lifting heavy again. doesnt happen like that.
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06-15-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LetGodBeMyJudge
you cant just take all that time off then go back and magically start lifting heavy again. doesnt happen like that.
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Yes, I can, and I did. That's why I said I rehabbed carefully. I built up very cautiously, from about March to about September, starting with just the bar, and building up to benching and squatting about 175 by the fall. I never said I just started lifting heavy after surgery. At the beginning of the time period in question, I had been PREPARING to lift heavily for a long time, but I hadn't actually lifted heavily in about a year. My doc gave me the green light to lift HEAVILY, I felt ready, and so I did.
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