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Old 06-13-2009, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Static Flexibilty Before Dynamic Flexibilty? EDIT FOR BAD SPELLING

So basically, I can't touch my toes and as far as flexibility goes I am pretty much pathetic. I'd like to change this. Before I put a routine together though, I'd like to make sure I am going about things in the right order. Seeing as I am extremely inflexible would I benefit most from doing static stretches twice a day (three on workout days ) until I reach maximum flexibility? Assuming that is what I should do after I reach that point I will do one dynamic and one static session a day, two static sessions on workout days.

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Static-passive flexibility (also called passive flexibility) is the ability to assume extended positions and then maintain them using only your weight, the support of your limbs, or some other apparatus (such as a chair or a barre). Note that the ability to maintain the position does not come solely from your muscles, as it does with static-active flexibility. Being able to perform the splits is an example of static-passive flexibility.
Research has shown that active flexibility is more closely related to the level of sports achievement than is passive flexibility. Active flexibility is harder to develop than passive flexibility (which is what most people think of as "flexibility"); not only does active flexibility require passive flexibility in order to assume an initial extended position, it also requires muscle strength to be able to hold and maintain that position.
This quote is from the FAQ but its mentioned so briefly that it seems unimportant.
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I use dynamic stretches to warm up.

I do some static stretches in the morning when I wake up or after I finish a workout session

Ive found that dynamic before the work out and then static after produces some good gains in flexibility overall, for me at least.
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The most important thing is to stretch out when your muscles are warmed up (i.e., after your workout). I would dedicate at least 10 minutes after every workout and try to incorporate yoga and/or a workout dedicated soley to flexibility at least once a week.
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Old 06-15-2009, 11:18 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Thank you guys for your responses, however, I did A LOT of reading on this and the one grey area I seemed to find was if I need good static flexibility to develop my dynamic flexibility. All the materials seem to mention it in passing but I would assume it'd be mentioned more if that was really how you should do it. I will just try to develop both at the same time and log my progress in here for those who are interested I guess.
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Definitely warm up before you do any type of static stretching. Jumping jacks, shadow boxing, mountain climbers.. stuff like that. Get yourself warmed up and dont "bounce" your joints when stretching.
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Definitely warm up before you do any type of static stretching. Jumping jacks, shadow boxing, mountain climbers.. stuff like that. Get yourself warmed up and dont "bounce" your joints when stretching.
I must really be terrible at expressing what I mean. I don't mean doing static stretches before my dynamic ones in a routine. I mean should I develop one before the other. As in is it useful to develop my static flexibility first so I have a greater range of motion for my dynamic stretches
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I would think you should develop them both at the same time. The progress you make from static stretching will be slower but will carry over to the applicable athletic movements while your dynamic stretching will also assist your static range of motion. As mentioned above, you should do your dynamic stretching before any athletic activities (not static, although static is good post workout). I have no idea wtf tricking is exactly, but this website had some pretty good stretching information that you might find helpful.
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I would think you should develop them both at the same time. The progress you make from static stretching will be slower but will carry over to the applicable athletic movements while your dynamic stretching will also assist your static range of motion. As mentioned above, you should do your dynamic stretching before any athletic activities (not static, although static is good post workout). I have no idea wtf tricking is exactly, but this website had some pretty good stretching information that you might find helpful.
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Thanks this is the kind of insight I was looking for. Already had the link but might as well bookmark it. Thanks again
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Whoops... yea, I misunderstood what you meant. I would do both.. dynamic preworkout after a warmup and static postworkout.
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