running advice

[NutFlea]

I've been trying for several weeks to finish this run, and it's just not happening:

5 minutes at treadmill level 5 (12 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 6 (10 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 7 (~ 8.5 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 8 (~7.3 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 9 (~ 6.5 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 10 (6 min/mile pace)

The best I've done is up through 4 minutes at level 10, but I can't seem to break that.

It's tough as hell.

Any advice?

BTW: I'm on a strength-training routine at the same time -- a 3 day rotation (legs, push, pull, off). And I generally train running about 3 times each week in addition to doing this run every weekend. My husband thinks I'm overtraining, but I feel fine. I just want to be able to finish this run!

[Ian Coe]

How long have you been doing this?


Try a few sessions/a week off and mong out and then build into it again.

You'll probably get past your sticking point


If you don't feel crappy and still progressing (which I will assume you are for lifting because you haven't stated otherwise, although I'm not personally sure if you can stagnate on cardio but still be adapting to strength training.....I would think they aren't mutually exclusive in regards to adaption) keep going.

I would going to give you shit for using a treadmil but you're agirl so....

[mmafanw]

wasn't that Chuck Liddell's running program during TUF 1?

[swampdonkeyman6]

i suggest taking a break from the treadmill and doing your running outside once or twice. then hit the treadmill again. i find that when i put off working out for a week, the excersises are sometimes/often easier.

[NutFlea]

Originally Posted by Ian Coe

I would going to give you shit for using a treadmil but you're agirl so....

Thanks for the advice. I've been doing it (or trying to) weekly since January. I've made LOTS of progress, and come really close to finishing. Now it's become an obsession.

At the same time, my lifting is improving. I can do 55 deadhang pullups in 10 sets, and my single-rep max's are 75# SOHP, 165# backsquat, and 200# DL, all better than a year ago.

I only run treadmills since I live in India where the air quality is disgusting and any route I might choose will involve dodging shit (literally).

I do think I got this idea from some fighter's training program, but I can't remember who. I thought it was Bas, but maybe Chuck too.

[Jake Martin]

Originally Posted by NutFlea

I do think I got this idea from some fighter's training program, but I can't remember who. I thought it was Bas, but maybe Chuck too.

I'm pretty sure this was a Bas thing, at least I remember it being in the Big DVD set...I also remember a big shitstorm of a thread over in Ask the Fighters regarding this.

[joshetc]

Originally Posted by mmafanw

wasn't that Chuck Liddell's running program during TUF 1?

Yes, it was. IIRC Chris Leben was the only person able to finish it. It's actually pretty difficult for anyone that isn't a runner.

[Fwogz1]

Originally Posted by NutFlea

I've been trying for several weeks to finish this run, and it's just not happening:

5 minutes at treadmill level 5 (12 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 6 (10 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 7 (~ 8.5 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 8 (~7.3 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 9 (~ 6.5 min/mile pace)
5 minutes at level 10 (6 min/mile pace)

How many miles does that come out to?

[TGR74]

If you can, move your running to outside.

For one...it's funner if you have to run.

For two it's funner.

For 3 it's a better workout especially over variable terrain like hiking trails(if you have any available).

4 it's funner.

5 you can get a tan.

6 you can run and drag your dog with you so you both get exercise.

7 you can actually see something other than the guy in the squat rack doing curls or subtitled CNN news.

please add to this

[NutFlea]

Originally Posted by TGR74

If you can, move your running to outside.

For one...it's funner if you have to run.

For two it's funner.

I'm a long-time runner and former cross-country coach (many years ago), so I know what running outside is like. But (1) my indoor run IS fun! I'm not complaining about it being boring. and (2) like I said above, running outdoors in India sucks.

Originally Posted by TGR74

For 3 it's a better workout especially over variable terrain like hiking trails(if you have any available).

The run I've described is plenty hard enough. I'm not looking for a "better workout." I'm asking for advice about being able to complete this one, which is already kick-ass.

Originally Posted by TGR74

5 you can get a tan.

Tan = skin cancer. No thanks.

Originally Posted by TGR74

6 you can run and drag your dog with you so you both get exercise.

Don't have a dog. I'm a cat person.

Originally Posted by TGR74

7 you can actually see something other than the guy in the squat rack doing curls or subtitled CNN news.

My husband and I usually have the gym to ourselves. We live on a campus compound, and we pretty much *own* the gym and can do whatever we want. It's awesome.

The point is not that I'm unhappy with this treadmill workout. I love it, and am, in fact, obsessed. But thanks for the response anyway.