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Old 09-12-2007, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Ross Enamait for soccer

Does anyone use Ross' stuff for soccer training.

While I would like to fight I love soccer too much.

I've realized now that I got back into playing actual games, that I'm slow. I've never had any sort of proper training/coaching growing up.

I didn't know if anyone used this specifically for soccer speed/agility/conditioning.

I was thinking of ordering either II or NG (like everyone else)
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:34 AM   #2 (permalink)

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I don't think that Infinite Intensity is that good for soccer, as the program is formed in the book. But if you change it alitle, incorporate more longdistance running and more intervall running I think that it would work pretty good.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:10 AM   #3 (permalink)

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HIIT imo would be good for soccer. but in order for it to be successful you have to simulate how much sprinting/jogging you would do in a typical game and try to simulate it.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't neglect your upper body strength when you're training - you need it to hold off opponents and keep posession of the ball. Some of the best players I know (international level) are very strong all over.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:58 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Well I'm trying to formulate my plan while I'm letting my groin recover.

My rough plan for now is going to be waking up in the morning to go on distance runs 3-4 miles, hopefully running around a 7 min/mile pace (working up to that obviously). Then I'll have 3 lifting sessions during the week.

I'm not on a team that practices during the week. I play on a men's indoor team wednesdays, then men's outdoor soccer sunday morning, co-ed indoor soccer sunday nights.

I'm just looking to increase quickness/speed/endurance...not my actual soccer skills. I figure increasing those things, would help my game tremendously.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:00 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Don't neglect your upper body strength when you're training - you need it to hold off opponents and keep posession of the ball. Some of the best players I know (international level) are very strong all over.
This is my first post in conditioning...I mainly live in Strength/Power forum. I have 2 upper/ 1 lower lifting days.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well I'm trying to formulate my plan while I'm letting my groin recover.

My rough plan for now is going to be waking up in the morning to go on distance runs 3-4 miles, hopefully running around a 7 min/mile pace (working up to that obviously). Then I'll have 3 lifting sessions during the week.

I'm not on a team that practices during the week. I play on a men's indoor team wednesdays, then men's outdoor soccer sunday morning, co-ed indoor soccer sunday nights.

I'm just looking to increase quickness/speed/endurance...not my actual soccer skills. I figure increasing those things, would help my game tremendously.
If you are already going to practice quite often and just want to add some "explosiveness" to your game I think Ross is the right way to go. Most of the workouts aren't so taxing that you will be burnt out at practice and it will add some strength and power that is often lacking in normal soccer practice (mind you it's been a long time since I played on a soccer team).

Also in my humble opinion it the program translates very well for indoor, because the small field the game consists of repeated sprints and the added upper body strength will help muscle people out of the way when against the boards.

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Old 09-16-2007, 05:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Unless you're playing in goal your training needs to focus on sprints with active recovery inbetween since that's prety much what a footy game consists of, try tabata (20 second sprints with 10 second rests up to 8 times) or some other form of hit. Footy consists of a lot of changing direction so try and work running round obstacles into your routine. Finaly your dribling speed is only as fact as running with the ball so loads of teams practice running round cones with the ball, not that this will help your actual conditioning much.
Oh and at school I remember them making us do sprints stepping in tyres that were in a row of 2s.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:04 PM   #9 (permalink)

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My rough plan for now is going to be waking up in the morning to go on distance runs 3-4 miles, hopefully running around a 7 min/mile pace (working up to that obviously). Then I'll have 3 lifting sessions during the week.

I'm not on a team that practices during the week. I play on a men's indoor team wednesdays, then men's outdoor soccer sunday morning, co-ed indoor soccer sunday nights.

I'm just looking to increase quickness/speed/endurance...not my actual soccer skills. I figure increasing those things, would help my game tremendously.
Ross's system would be a fine investment. As Ross says over and over, the program he puts together in the book is merely an example of applying the principles. If you have different goals than him, he wants you to change the program, and he gives you much of the information you need to do that.

If you get the book, I bet you'll figure out a path. I played soccer years ago. In your position, particularly if I felt I were slow, I would be concentrating on lower-body-based HIIT routines, and probably some supplemental work that focused on explosiveness such as squat jumps, lunge jumps, box jumps, etc. If you can do all that and also do 4 mile runs every day, great; if not, I would sacrfice at least 3 of the aerobic runs for strength and HIIT work. Remember, for soccer games you'll need aerobic and anerobic fitness; your distance work focuses on the aerobic system, while HIIT work hits all three energy systems, aerobic and the two anaerobic systems. It's a mistake to think of HIIT as anaerobic-only, and given your focus on speed, it's something to look at closely.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:24 PM   #10 (permalink)

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I took a 3 year break from soccer for work and I lost a lot of that explosiveness that made me good too. It took awhile but I found a group of guys to play three on three with regularly and this made a huge diffrence. It's all about jogging most of the time, then hitting your top speed sprints at the any moment. In smaller games like indoor and such you experince these prints more often. After a few weeks of this I was close to my old self in the larger outdoor games.
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