The pro's strength and conditioning wise

[Kinglee1984]

I've watched alot of the video's available of gsp,wand,sherk, pretty much the pro's who's gas seems to run and run, and was wondering if anyone know's how these guys split their routines? Do they train full body like 3 days a week or what? Also if anyone knows of any really good strength and conditioning books or dvd's i could try and get a hold of it would be much appreciated, trying to take my own training to the next level, thanks ppl

[kenzo242]

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[Kinglee1984]

Cheers for the reply, kinda makes you wonder i mean 90% of people who post in the heavy's claim to train, you'd think more people who train would care about improving their training and condition, thanks anyway i'll check it out now

[fortyozdog**]

Originally Posted by kenzo242

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ill check it out to.thanks

[paolo27th]

Originally Posted by kenzo242

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Dude stop plugging your website in every thread.

[kenzo242]

Originally Posted by Kinglee1984

Cheers for the reply, kinda makes you wonder i mean 90% of people who post in the heavy's claim to train, you'd think more people who train would care about improving their training and condition, thanks anyway i'll check it out now

You're welcome. PLease feel free to comment and let me know how I can help with other info.

[kenzo242]

Originally Posted by paolo27th

Dude stop plugging your website in every thread.

Paolo can you help me with that. I put my address as a signature because in my User CP the place it suggests to place a website doesn't stay saved. I'm not trying to gratuitiously promote my website. Just having trouble finding where it needs to go in accordance with sherdog. Thank you.

[Urban]

Kenzo, your website is funny. endurance "Think about it. How many programs out there do this for their resistance training? None, last I checked" strength " strength "again, who lifts like this? Very few"

Honestly? THAT'S your argument? nobody trains like this so it must be good? I'm not questioning the quality of your product, only the arguments made on the site. It certainly wouldn't benefit you to say something like "the only program that may be better than ours is one outlined in Ross Enamaits products" but honestly you really think you guys are THAT unique?

I mean ok, how about this:

The purpose of this [core] phase is to increase stability throughout your trunk, increase muscular endurance improve neuromuscular efficiency of the core muscles

Are you doing two separate things here? because neuromuscular efficiency is most commonly thought of as best built through heavy loads and low reps, NOT loading parameters conducive to endurance.

In order to progress properly to the strength and power phases, you need to prepare your neuro-muscular system for the intense training to come.

Why? Asside from conditioning your core musculature to prevent injury, I see no reason to prepare your neuro-muscular system for intense training besides "psyching" yourself up. should you have adequate stability? sure! but thats more about the development and strengthening of muscle than it is improving CNS function.

If your endurance capabilities are not enhanced, it will affect the level of strength and power achieved.

"it will affect," to what extent? these weasel words allude to greater problems than will actually occur. Work capacity allows you to lift more during difference phases of a periodized routine, allowing you to handle more volume, but how much this is true is a matter of debate. The best lifters in the world don't suffer and often employ minimal GPP work to increase work capacity.

The strength and power videos have little to do with either strength or power and the description of the strength section is riddled with even more bad science, and statements not substantiated in the videos anyways, like this gem:

By using the concept of “time under tension”, we focus on tempo while lifting in order to increase proper muscle recruitment and technique, while decreasing risk of injury.

Time under tension is a shitty strength buiding paradigm to begin with. it's something that a BODYBUILDER invented to increase SIZE and perceived intensity of a workout.

Tempo refers to taking 3 seconds to lower the weight, 2 seconds holding at the midpoint and a 1-2 second lift.

this tempo was not AT ALL demonstrated in the video offered. And an exagerated eccentric phase will most likely lead to greater soreness. I guess if your goal is to make relatively untrained people feel like they got a good workout, this ia pretty good way to go, but generally if you have time and concentration to count a cadence in your lift, you're not going heavy enough to facilitate strength gains. But maybe you and I have different definitions of strength. I define strength as peak force generation through maximal mass (as opposed to acceleration).

Lifting extremely heavy only increases compensation patterns and injury.

Source? compensation patterns are a functional and postural deficiency, there's no reason you couldn't lift heavy AND avoid both compensation patterns as well as injury with proper attention to rehab and muscular or flexibility imbalances.

oddly enough, the literature in your power section seems prettyaccurate. I'd note only that some powerlifting gyms out there have measure the increase in power output from heavy lifting and found it to match what would come from explosive lifting (dynamic effort training with bands and chains) with the added benefit of increasing your peak strength (ability to move larger masses). is lifting heavy like this MOST beneficial to all athletes, no. probably not. but i would bet that a lot of athletes just starting to lift would benefit tremendously from heavy lifting before moving on to more advanced protocols.

I'm not passing judgement on your product, but the statements made, the sample videos offered, and the fact that you're plugging a product for free on a website with paid sponsors (which makes you essentially a spammer) makes it subject to scrutiny.

[onemadmofo]

Originally Posted by Urban

Kenzo, your website is funny. endurance "Think about it. How many programs out there do this for their resistance training? None, last I checked" strength " strength "again, who lifts like this? Very few"

Honestly? THAT'S your argument? nobody trains like this so it must be good? I'm not questioning the quality of your product, only the arguments made on the site. It certainly wouldn't benefit you to say something like "the only program that may be better than ours is one outlined in Ross Enamaits products" but honestly you really think you guys are THAT unique?

I mean ok, how about this:
Are you doing two separate things here? because neuromuscular efficiency is most commonly thought of as best built through heavy loads and low reps, NOT loading parameters conducive to endurance.
Why? Asside from conditioning your core musculature to prevent injury, I see no reason to prepare your neuro-muscular system for intense training besides "psyching" yourself up. should you have adequate stability? sure! but thats more about the development and strengthening of muscle than it is improving CNS function.
"it will affect," to what extent? these weasel words allude to greater problems than will actually occur. Work capacity allows you to lift more during difference phases of a periodized routine, allowing you to handle more volume, but how much this is true is a matter of debate. The best lifters in the world don't suffer and often employ minimal GPP work to increase work capacity.

The strength and power videos have little to do with either strength or power and the description of the strength section is riddled with even more bad science, and statements not substantiated in the videos anyways, like this gem:
Time under tension is a shitty strength buiding paradigm to begin with. it's something that a BODYBUILDER invented to increase SIZE and perceived intensity of a workout.
this tempo was not AT ALL demonstrated in the video offered. And an exagerated eccentric phase will most likely lead to greater soreness. I guess if your goal is to make relatively untrained people feel like they got a good workout, this ia pretty good way to go, but generally if you have time and concentration to count a cadence in your lift, you're not going heavy enough to facilitate strength gains. But maybe you and I have different definitions of strength. I define strength as peak force generation through maximal mass (as opposed to acceleration).
Source? compensation patterns are a functional and postural deficiency, there's no reason you couldn't lift heavy AND avoid both compensation patterns as well as injury with proper attention to rehab and muscular or flexibility imbalances.

oddly enough, the literature in your power section seems prettyaccurate. I'd note only that some powerlifting gyms out there have measure the increase in power output from heavy lifting and found it to match what would come from explosive lifting (dynamic effort training with bands and chains) with the added benefit of increasing your peak strength (ability to move larger masses). is lifting heavy like this MOST beneficial to all athletes, no. probably not. but i would bet that a lot of athletes just starting to lift would benefit tremendously from heavy lifting before moving on to more advanced protocols.

I'm not passing judgement on your product, but the statements made, the sample videos offered, and the fact that you're plugging a product for free on a website with paid sponsors (which makes you essentially a spammer) makes it subject to scrutiny.

oh snap somebody got owned.

[NougatMcCrunch]

Originally Posted by Urban

Kenzo, your website is funny. endurance "Think about it. How many programs out there do this for their resistance training? None, last I checked" strength " strength "again, who lifts like this? Very few"

Honestly? THAT'S your argument? nobody trains like this so it must be good? I'm not questioning the quality of your product, only the arguments made on the site. It certainly wouldn't benefit you to say something like "the only program that may be better than ours is one outlined in Ross Enamaits products" but honestly you really think you guys are THAT unique?

I mean ok, how about this:
Are you doing two separate things here? because neuromuscular efficiency is most commonly thought of as best built through heavy loads and low reps, NOT loading parameters conducive to endurance.
Why? Asside from conditioning your core musculature to prevent injury, I see no reason to prepare your neuro-muscular system for intense training besides "psyching" yourself up. should you have adequate stability? sure! but thats more about the development and strengthening of muscle than it is improving CNS function.
"it will affect," to what extent? these weasel words allude to greater problems than will actually occur. Work capacity allows you to lift more during difference phases of a periodized routine, allowing you to handle more volume, but how much this is true is a matter of debate. The best lifters in the world don't suffer and often employ minimal GPP work to increase work capacity.

The strength and power videos have little to do with either strength or power and the description of the strength section is riddled with even more bad science, and statements not substantiated in the videos anyways, like this gem:
Time under tension is a shitty strength buiding paradigm to begin with. it's something that a BODYBUILDER invented to increase SIZE and perceived intensity of a workout.
this tempo was not AT ALL demonstrated in the video offered. And an exagerated eccentric phase will most likely lead to greater soreness. I guess if your goal is to make relatively untrained people feel like they got a good workout, this ia pretty good way to go, but generally if you have time and concentration to count a cadence in your lift, you're not going heavy enough to facilitate strength gains. But maybe you and I have different definitions of strength. I define strength as peak force generation through maximal mass (as opposed to acceleration).
Source? compensation patterns are a functional and postural deficiency, there's no reason you couldn't lift heavy AND avoid both compensation patterns as well as injury with proper attention to rehab and muscular or flexibility imbalances.

oddly enough, the literature in your power section seems prettyaccurate. I'd note only that some powerlifting gyms out there have measure the increase in power output from heavy lifting and found it to match what would come from explosive lifting (dynamic effort training with bands and chains) with the added benefit of increasing your peak strength (ability to move larger masses). is lifting heavy like this MOST beneficial to all athletes, no. probably not. but i would bet that a lot of athletes just starting to lift would benefit tremendously from heavy lifting before moving on to more advanced protocols.

I'm not passing judgement on your product, but the statements made, the sample videos offered, and the fact that you're plugging a product for free on a website with paid sponsors (which makes you essentially a spammer) makes it subject to scrutiny.

He got Urbanowned.