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Old 12-09-2006, 11:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In need of alot of help.

I'm coming here to ask the help of fighters and non fighters that have been injured, either from in the ring, at home, work, vacation, etc etc.

This seemed like the logical forum to bring this up in since physio therapy is a form of conditioning.

Almost 5 years ago I was injured at work. I worked at a furniture store and was unloading a pavillion from our delivery truck with another coworker. It was over 200 pounds and 13 feet long and 2 feet by 2 feet. It was on a trolly which my coworker had a hold off. She's not a very big person, about 5'4 and I'd say about 100 pounds.

As we began to lower it down it started to get windy and she lost her grip on it. I looked down and noticed she had turtled under it so I looked back up and saw it coming down. I had no time whatsoever to grab her and move us out of the way. So in turn I had to catch it. One leg was straight, the other was bent, I put both hands up and got ready for the impact. It smashed onto the right side of my neck and shoulder and I felt my hips, knees, elbows, shoulders, back.... well pretty much everything popped and crackled, felt some snapping.... all the good stuff.

Over time problems began to develope. My left shoulder began coming out of joint no matter what I did. I'd wake up from sleeping in pain cause my arm was out of joint and I'd have to sit on a chair with an arm and rest my arm on it sometimes for up to 3 hours before my arm would stay somewhat in joint and I could go about my day. I developed migraines over time which start on the right side of my neck usually mid to lower range and they have gotten worse. Sometimes they can last 2 months with no break whatsoever. I can take a migraine pill, but it doesn't stop the pain in my neck which is absolutely brutal somedays. From the throwing up I started to develope chest pains. At first they started as what felt like minor water cramps, but they kept getting worse and worse and now they are just horrible. if I breath in to deep it causes me extreme amounts of pain, if I twist to much to either side it makes it worse, coughing, sneezing.... it's all the same. It makes me buckle over in pain and yes it makes me cry sometimes. The pain is that bad. It's alot worse then my apendix that ruptured and fused to my abdomin wall and wasn't removed for 5 years.

I know someone may be going... why are ya bringing this crappy story here.... well there's a few reasons.

One reason is that i lived with my one bum arm for a few years before I had surgery on it and when i finally had it done it was an absolutely brutal experience that I do not want to go through unless I have to. Since I could only use one arm for all those years it slowly developed the problems I was having with my left arm. It comes out of joint, there's grinding and popping and I want to avoid surgery if I can because I don't want to have to go through all that anytime soon. I still have problems with my left shoulders, but is there anything besides surgery that i could do that might help with the pain in my shoulder or help me deal with the problems better. Exercises that may help, or if someone can tell me there experience with cordizone injections and if that might be better for the time being. I just want to avoid surgery for the time being. I can't state that enough unless it's the only thing I can do.

The second reason is my neck. I'm looking at things along the same lines. Exercises, treatments, injections to numb the pain that have helped anyone here that may help me. Some days I can barely move my neck without feeling pain and it's getting really brutal after all this time.

But more then anything and the third reason is my chest pains. I have had an ultrasound to see if it was something else and am getting an xray because the chest pains aren't just on my left side anymore, they're starting to happen on my right side. I have a hard time picking things up, bending down, twisting, sleeping, etc etc etc.

I keep hearing from doctors that there's nothing they can do for me with this problem and I'm getting tired of hearing it. I'm getting tired of buckling over in pain and crying and having to have people pick me up. The docs seem to think it's a torn muscle or muscle spasms. The pain goes along my lower ribs and it's not at the surface, it's a deeper feeling pain. Again as with the others. Are there any exercises or maybe new treatments that anyone knows about that might be able to help me out in anyway.

I do have knee, hip, back and ankle problems, but those 3 are the worst at the moment and have continued to get worse over the years, compared to my other problems.

The reason I'm coming here is because I know fighters deal with injuries over there career in the ring and everyone in general may deal with injuries in the work place or through their hobbies and recreational sports. I'm sorry to bother you guys with this, but I've had problems all my life and after getting hurt I'm tired of standing around and hearing there's nothing they can do for me. So I've finally decided to start looking for solutions elsewhere and alot of people on here seem very knowledgable and I would really appreciate the help more then alot of you guys might understand. I need help because like I said... I'm getting tired of living in pain.... it's from head to toe. Any exercises, treatments, comments about cordizone injections to joints and such would be very helpful. Please.... that's all I can ask in the end. Please.
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dude i would love to be able to say do this or that and it'll fix whatever problems that you have but at least what i get from reading this is there is alot of serious problems going on.

It would be one thing for us to try and suggest idea's for say a bad shoulder or neck, but i don't think anyone on here is going to be able to tell you a concrete answer to help you with whats going on. There is just too much we just can't know thats needed to give a truly educated answer.

have you seen an actual physiotherapest? they can give you alot more informed suggestions than doctors or us by sitting down with you and seing your capabilities. As it sounds and this just may be an assumption on my part is that you may be passed the point where exercise is a solution for some things. I am sure we could probably come up with some really low impact exercises but we have no idea to know if you can do them, i used to have terrble shoulders so i can give insight on that (opninion not medical advice), but i don't know if you can dumbell press, or lateral or anything so its kinda futal for me to suggest things.

The only exercises i could suggest at all that i think would be safe for you to do is getting out walking and even such things as pillates and yogo. Just to work on your mobility and get muscles working, but man i'm no way saying this is going to solve anything if a doctor can't help you some dudes on the net more the likely can't.

I hope though for your sake you made a claim with WSIB, they'll cover any treatment with specialists you need.

Best of luck man, wish i could actually help
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That's all I'm really looking for at this point is ideas or basic suggestions or like I said. If someone had cordizone shots how did they find them and if they helped somewhat or not.
I get them for my abdomine muscles because of my apendix thing, but having them injected in one spot compared to another might have different effects or not work as effectively.

I do go to physio. This is actually my third time going and I have a limited time because WSIB is really not helping me at all. I put in a claim when I was injured. My boss sat down and did it with me, but my experience with WSIB has been anything, but pleasent. They cancelled part of my claim, created another number for another part of my body and shafted me that way saying I made a claim under the wrong number, won't pay me for time I've been off, fighting me for medication coverage, they called me a week before I had surgery and told me to cancel because they wouldn't cover me *which I fought them on and did eventually get covered*, for about a year the guy handling my case did not keep any info about me on his computer and told me because I was part time I didn't deserve coverage and the reason I know he didn't keep any records is cause when he was magically let go, the new person taking over my case had to start from scratch and told me he had not put anything down. I just have not been enjoying my dealings with them and it sucked wasting about a year for nothing.

As for physio they won't do certain exercises because I have a hard time lifting things and they even want me to stop some of the exercises I'm doing now, which I am starting to do because I'm having a hard time doing them, but I usual try to bite the bullet and just work through the pain. it kept getting worse when I wasn't in physio and is still getting worse so I just want to keep doing them to at least to try to get arm strength back, but that's why I thought I'd come on here and ask.

And I've thought the same thing about being past that point of no return exercise wise, but sometimes you have to just keep trying even if it won't help. Just in my life from things I've learned, even if you're fighting a losing battle, you just have to keep going. Sometimes it's better to keep trying even if you're going to lose then to completely give up.

And I appreciate the post. Just getting ideas or even having things pointed out helps and even though I did my WSIB claim I appreciate that suggestion. Maybe for those that get hurt in the future somehow that have read this will remember because it was suggested on here... I just hope none of you have to go through what I've gone through and still going through.

And yes there's alot of serious problems going on, more then just the injuries from work. I had alot of problems from before and it made all of them worse, but WSIB won't acknowledge it because they are preexisting problems.... meh what can ya do eh?
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WSIB is a bitch, you basically have to know what to do and when to do it or you get nailed. Thats why i brought it up, if you miss i think 3 days in reporting the accident it auotmatically becomes a huge battle to get it recognized. If you have to go through the aggrivation of going from STD to LTD and then back to work or limited work, good god its just horrible. One thing i learned from a few people even if you slice your hand report it, the company doesn't pay any hire premiums because its not a time loss injury and in case it say gets infected and complications arise your covered.

My personal opinion would be that you try no weight exercises first like walking, yoga, pilattes or tie che (sp?). Just get your body going through the full range of motion, i know their "girly" things to do, but it'll probably help you more then trying to lift with a limited ROM and just causing alot of pain for yourself. Slowly add some resistance from there, just bands or light light dumbells, worst thing to do in rehab is try too much, thats the perfect example of 1 step forward 3 steps back.

Not too sure about the localized shots, i think that may be very person dependent, and very injury dependent. I know personally codine does nothing to me and demerol makes my brother hyper as hell.

I don't think i have ever heard of a good story coming from WSIB though, so don't feel thats personal

Others may be able to offer more suggestions, i think you may be a little more of an advanced case then this forum is intended to help with.
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