my secret to "real" cardio... - Page 2

Polynikes · 10-30-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbaland

Wow that stuff looks great. How much did it cost?

my brother payed for it...

it belongs to him, but i am using it too...

i'm pretty sure it was a couple of thousand though...

he's got it, so why not spend it on something that will help you...

my big toe · 10-31-2005, 09:40 AM

Interesting. Are you doing any before and after time trials to see what kind gains you are getting?

Polynikes · 10-31-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by my big toe

Interesting. Are you doing any before and after time trials to see what kind gains you are getting?

well, kinda...

the cycling season just ended, so there won't be any time trials soon. but he'll probably do one himself in a few weeks...

i'm just going off of grappling conditioning right now. i had a shoulder surgery recently so i can't go full speed yet, but just drilling is no problem for me. keep in mind, b/c of the surgery, time off prior to surgery, and all that shit, i've not been able to do anything for a few months...

but i feel like i never quit...

it's weird...

my big toe · 10-31-2005, 12:47 PM

Yeah, there's no doubt that it works. I bet it's safer than EPO, too. I could have used this thing back when I was competing. I always trained at sea level, and then did some races at altitude like the Mammoth stage race. I found out the hard way that you should either go the day before the race or two+ weeks early. The first time I went 3 days early...by the 3rd stage I was toast.

Now, how do you explain to your wife/girlfriend that you sleep in an oxygen tent...

Hamit Aktas · 10-31-2005, 12:52 PM

So how much DID it cost?

Colby18 · 10-31-2005, 02:42 PM

dude that is awsome. I'm just too damn poor to buy one. I've always been interested in Altitude training though and this would defintiely make it easier.

Maybe I'll just pintch a tent at the top of the nearest moutnain and sleep there and go back into town during the day time to train. Thatd have the same effect right? lol.

my big toe · 10-31-2005, 03:59 PM

It looks like the IOC banned them at the 2000 games, I was wondering if this was going to fly with the IOC. I think they said it was considered "unsafe". Here's another article on it:

http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/articles/scni5a8.htm
...Among them was Michelle Jones, winner of the silver medal in the first ever Olympic triathlon. The hypoxic tent system, which is manufactured by an American firm run by the former British Olympic cyclist Shaun Wallace, costs £4,000. Despite this hefty price tag, it is becoming increasingly popular with endurance athletes looking for a legal way to increase their red blood cell count in the hope that this will make them run faster. Demand for the tents is reported to have surged since the introduction, at last year's Olympics, of a test, which could detect the banned hormone erythropoctin (EPO).

Among others who use hypoxic tents regularly are Britain's world cross-country champion Paula Radcliffe, England's former world triathlon champion Simon Lessing, Australia's ironman triathlon champion Greg Welch, New Zealand's Commonwealth cycling gold medallist Lee Vertongen and America's Olympic swimming silver medallist and world record holder Ed Moses. "Runners have a saying, sleep high, train hard - and that's what I do," says Suzy Favor Hamilton, America's top ranked 1,500m runner, who also uses the tent.

Here's another manufacturer that make a portable one:

http://www.go2altitude.com/

I would think that the tent would get pretty hot and stuffy inside.

my big toe · 10-31-2005, 04:21 PM

Here's an even better article written by the MAN, Ed Burke. It's interesting that some people are non-responders, and some are high responders, with the average improvement 2-3%. Nobody has figured out what the difference is between the responders and non-responders. It also says that you need to get enough iron for the increased blood production.

http://altitudetraining.com/main/com...cticalApproach

Poseidon · 10-31-2005, 05:30 PM

Unless you are a Pro athlete or other...... why bother? The detail you go into is a tad OTP and in no way needed. Training is BASIC, there's no huge science to it, be it cardio or weight training. I do runs/hill sprints, cycle hill runs, matt work/boxing, weight training. That's all one needs.

Polynikes · 10-31-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Poseidon

Unless you are a Pro athlete or other...... why bother? The detail you go into is a tad OTP and in no way needed. Training is BASIC, there's no huge science to it, be it cardio or weight training. I do runs/hill sprints, cycle hill runs, matt work/boxing, weight training. That's all one needs.

sorry, but that's just not true man...

training is basic if you want to stay basic with regards to your performance...

my brother is a pretty big cyclist, and rides on an "A" team with guys that have raced lance armstrong...

so, he bought it, and i'm using it with him...