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Old 01-27-2009, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)

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MMA conditioning with Scott Epstein

I found this and would like to here waht some of you thought about this training phylosophy.
I have alot of respect for Scott as a fighter and agree with alot of what he had to say here(except the part about sledge hammer training).

FLC: What's your training schedule leading up to
competition (peaking & pulling back)?

Scott Epstein: My training changes depend on the comp. If its
mma then im gonna have to make some dietary changes first,. My
eating habits are never bad but when i have a fight coming that
means i have a few pounds to lose ,next is my conditioning and
training. I try to do sprints of any kind twice a week or jog very
steep inclines.as long as my heart rate is up and i find my rested
heart rate is lowering . At the gym i try to spar boxing thai
boxing and mma with guys close to my size ,i will go all out in
sparing twice a week and do it on days i did not sprint. the last
2 weeks before the fight my sprints become jogs and i only do light
jiu jitsu rolls and techniques.

FLC: Most common training mistakes you see

Scott Epstein: People over train way to much. People also get in
to stupid fads that have no real research or testing done to prove the
effectiveness..i will never run with a snorkel or hit a tire with a
sledge hammer..
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:48 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I disagree with the sledgehammer comment as well. As for the snorkeling apart, I agree, because that's forcing you to breath through your mouth, and I'm one of those people who if I do that all the time in training, I'm gonna do that in a fight. Good info though.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So prior to a fight I should spar twice a week, lose a few lbs and not use a snorkel or sledgehammer.

Check.

Unfortunately this doesn't really provide any useful information on 'MMA Conditioning.'
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:10 AM   #4 (permalink)

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If he can't see the benefits of strongman style training then he's obviously never tried it. So he only does sprints outside of sparring for conditioning? Is he a pro sprinter in his spare time?

I don't like this attitude of needing scientific research to back up everything. Some people want to be TOO scientific when in fact all you need to do is bust your balls with variety thrown in.

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Old 01-28-2009, 11:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah this Fedor he really are a noob falling victims to "fads" such as swinging a sledgehammer against a tire.

...I mean seriously know your history, swinging sledgehammers have just as long history for boxing conditioning as running has.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:34 PM   #6 (permalink)

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I guess I took this a little diffrent when I first read it than I do now that people are pointing it out. Before my last fight I cut out a lot of the weight complex and strong man stuff I use to do to get in shape for a fight and started focusing on sprints and longer duration sparring and rolling with less rest between rounds. I lifted heavy explosive compound lifts untill about a week to a week and a half before the fight. and I can say my conditioning I think was better for this fight than the way I use to do it, with a lot of weight complexes and circuts. I think the long duration sparring and grapiling sessions added alot of conditioning to my game fast.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:56 PM   #7 (permalink)

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It's also about economy of movement. With rolling and sparring you are training your body to economize-cut out the unnecessary movements, and retain more energy. This is also why mimicking the movements you use in competition is more beneficial than mindlessly riding a bike for example- granted the bike has its place too.
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I wouldn't listen to this guy, no matter what he was saying.

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Old 01-29-2009, 05:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I guess I took this a little diffrent when I first read it than I do now that people are pointing it out. Before my last fight I cut out a lot of the weight complex and strong man stuff I use to do to get in shape for a fight and started focusing on sprints and longer duration sparring and rolling with less rest between rounds. I lifted heavy explosive compound lifts untill about a week to a week and a half before the fight. and I can say my conditioning I think was better for this fight than the way I use to do it, with a lot of weight complexes and circuts. I think the long duration sparring and grapiling sessions added alot of conditioning to my game fast.
When people are at a relatively low level the best way to improve conditioning is to just roll and get more mat time. Once you hit a certain point you will need additioning conditioning outside of the gym. This is where cardiac output, anaerobic-lactic, anaerobic-alactic, strength, etc. come into play.

What you guys need to keep in mind and what Scott seems to forget is that the actual exercise isnt as important as how it is used. You can take a Sledgehammer and use it to build strength, aerobic or anaerobic conditioning with it. Same can be said with just about every exercise known to man. Modifying the resistance, durations, etc. determine what the exercise actually does to your body. Not the item or exercise used itself.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:50 AM   #10 (permalink)

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This is the guy from one of the Tapout episodes. One of Eddie Bravo's guys
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