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02-27-2008, 12:39 AM
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Might Give this a shot
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/412/
Seems doable and a good way to add in some conditioning if your primary goal is strength and power. I think most of us could manage 1-2 minutes per day.
Whaddya think?
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02-27-2008, 01:45 AM
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if it sounds too good to be true...
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02-27-2008, 02:29 AM
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Sonny, I am interested to see how you go!
Up until recently I was doing 5 minutes straight of kettlebell clean and press (2.5 minutes per arm). I did that with a 48kg kettlebell the most reps I completed was 18 reps on my left arm and 17 on my right arm. But I was only doing that once per week.
Doing the drill that the article described would be a tough drill. But is it enough to cause an improvement in conditioning? I don't know! A few years ago I would have laughed at the Tabata protocol.... now its one of my favourite conditioning tools!
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02-27-2008, 08:32 AM
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This is an interesting thought. I wonder how stressful this would be on the body - ie: could I throw in this drill on top of my other daily work?
I can see it's application as a finisher, but the thought that popped in my head is this: Say I'm trying to cut weight. I wonder if I threw this in during the middle of the day (I train AM and PM right now, so mid afternoon) as a stand-alone, would it be decent at increasing my metabolism while not taking up too much of my energy for the evening session? Could be applied to any short conditioning exercise, as well, not just swings.
This is something I'll have to experiment with.
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02-27-2008, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotokan777
This is an interesting thought. I wonder how stressful this would be on the body - ie: could I throw in this drill on top of my other daily work?
I can see it's application as a finisher, but the thought that popped in my head is this: Say I'm trying to cut weight. I wonder if I threw this in during the middle of the day (I train AM and PM right now, so mid afternoon) as a stand-alone, would it be decent at increasing my metabolism while not taking up too much of my energy for the evening session? Could be applied to any short conditioning exercise, as well, not just swings.
This is something I'll have to experiment with.
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Yeah I was thinking that. For most of the guys here, using this soley as a stand alone ain't gonna do much, but used in conjunction with your current routine it might be a nice addition, like you said, as a finisher or even a warm-up. I was also going to say that it might come in handy for guys when they get the itch to do something in between training sessions, we're talking 1-2 minutes here so I can't see it fucking with your recovery all that much.
On the flip side, for the recreationalist, beginner, or strength athlete, this could be used as a stand alone for conditioning work, much better than going for a 30 minute walk.
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02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad Morris
Doing the drill that the article described would be a tough drill. But is it enough to cause an improvement in conditioning? I don't know! A few years ago I would have laughed at the Tabata protocol.... now its one of my favourite conditioning tools!
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Like I said, I can't see this being enough to do much for a fighter who already has good to excellent conditioning, but I think it would be a good addition.
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02-27-2008, 10:35 AM
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The two tools I consider most valuable right now: my broomstick, and my 16kg KB. Both of them travel round the house with me and are great for keeping the metabolism up and working on general flexibility and lifting form. Windmills and clean-jerk-one-arm OHS are my favourite KB lifts, and ATG OHS and snatches with the stick.
Honestly the stick is actually the better tool for conditioning IMO - try two straight minutes of inch-perfect snatches and see if you survive. The KB I like more for flexibility and odd lifts, but then it's not very heavy.
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02-27-2008, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revok
The two tools I consider most valuable right now: my broomstick, and my 16kg KB. Both of them travel round the house with me and are great for keeping the metabolism up and working on general flexibility and lifting form. Windmills and clean-jerk-one-arm OHS are my favourite KB lifts, and ATG OHS and snatches with the stick.
Honestly the stick is actually the better tool for conditioning IMO - try two straight minutes of inch-perfect snatches and see if you survive. The KB I like more for flexibility and odd lifts, but then it's not very heavy.
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When did you get that KB?
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02-27-2008, 11:41 AM
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A couple months ago when I worked at a shit supps company. Certainly would've got a heavier one but sadly the boss was determined his business cater only to metros so 16kg was the heaviest available.
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02-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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A lot of people of here seem to think of me as the "Quick Morning GPP" and "finisher" guy, and for good reason: I swear by these "minimalist" conditioning techniques. I only have one dedicated GPP day. The rest of my conditioning is finishers, QMGPP, or a side effect of my other trainging (whether it be lifting, greasing the groove, hitting the heavy bag, rolling in jiu-jitsu, etc.) Without trying to sound pompous, I think the results are pretty impressive: My goal is not not gas out in jiu-jitsu, and I don't gas out in jiu-jitsu.
So, I look at this idea optimistically. I think I'll do it. Except I'll use a dumbbell.
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