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Old 09-03-2007, 01:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Heart rate monitors

I have started using a heart rate monitor while training. I found something I wasn't expecting.

It seems that the longer I go the lower my heart rate drops.

For example. I was jogging and had my heart rate up between 70-80% MR which is 130-150. I found that after 20 minutes at going the same pace and intensity my heart rate got slower and dropped below 130 so I had to up the intensity alot in order to bring it back up.

Is this normal? I would think that your heart rate would go up not down during exrecise.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You're absolutely sure you were going at the same pace?

Did the chest strap move at all?
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)

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During the first 15 to 20 minutes of aerobic activity, glycogen or sugar within the muscles is used for energy. Fat metabolism for energy doesn't occur until about 15 to 20 minutes after beginning aerobic activity. Therefore after 20 minutes the intensity with which you are running enables your body to oxidise more fat for energy and thus you will need to up the intensity to get back into the aerobic glycolysis training zone. This explains why your heart rate could drop at this time. RUN FASTER!
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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During the first 15 to 20 minutes of aerobic activity, glycogen or sugar within the muscles is used for energy. Fat metabolism for energy doesn't occur until about 15 to 20 minutes after beginning aerobic activity. Therefore after 20 minutes the intensity with which you are running enables your body to oxidise more fat for energy and thus you will need to up the intensity to get back into the aerobic glycolysis training zone. This explains why your heart rate could drop at this time. RUN FASTER!
I thought something similar just not as well put. I figured my body was just adapting to the work load so therefore I would have to up the tempo.
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You're absolutely sure you were going at the same pace?

Did the chest strap move at all?

Yes because I run to music and keep pace with the beat of the music. I have the same song 5x on my MP3 player so I can keep a constant rythum
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:52 PM   #6 (permalink)

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During the first 15 to 20 minutes of aerobic activity, glycogen or sugar within the muscles is used for energy. Fat metabolism for energy doesn't occur until about 15 to 20 minutes after beginning aerobic activity. Therefore after 20 minutes the intensity with which you are running enables your body to oxidise more fat for energy and thus you will need to up the intensity to get back into the aerobic glycolysis training zone. This explains why your heart rate could drop at this time. RUN FASTER!
This is absolutely wrong. The fuel you burn is related to intensity, not time. Time to fatigue is related to intensity, but the fuel you burn doesn't change as the time you can continue increases, just as the time to fatigue changes, only with intensity and availability.
In the first minute or so (maybe shorter) you will burn mostly intramuscular glycogen, ATP and CP at an accelerated rate in order to generate the chemical stimulus to use and mobilize other fuels. The fuel selection at any given intensity is regulated by a complex series of neuro-hormonal chemicals, substrate availability and allosteric modification that is basically dependent on intensity.
The harder you go, the more you rely on anaerobic glycolysis and produce lactate, the easier you go the more you use aerobic glycolysis and fat metabolism through beta oxidation.
If you are at rest, such as sitting here reading this on the computer you are burning primarily fat for energy in your muscles. It's not like you switch one energy source off and another one on, it's a continuum, you are always burning fat and using aerobic and anaerobic glycolysis what changes is the percent of energy coming from each metabolic pathway.

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I have started using a heart rate monitor while training. I found something I wasn't expecting.

It seems that the longer I go the lower my heart rate drops.

For example. I was jogging and had my heart rate up between 70-80% MR which is 130-150. I found that after 20 minutes at going the same pace and intensity my heart rate got slower and dropped below 130 so I had to up the intensity alot in order to bring it back up.

Is this normal? I would think that your heart rate would go up not down during exrecise.
To answer your question, if your initial heart rate reading was at the very beginning, when you start running the neuro-hormonal response could overshoot and lead to a higher heart rate than is needed to continue at that pace, which would then be corrected by lowering it with a parasympathetic feedback response. Typically what you'll find is that as you continue at a constant workload your heart rate will increase, this is called cardiac drift, it's a result of a greater demand on the heart at submaximal heart rates since as you continue your core temperature increases and more blood is needed to go to the skin to cool you, and as your blood volume decreases due to perspiration your heart needs to pump more beats per minute to maintain the same blood flow as before. If your heart rate decreases during heavy activity this is called a poor chronotropic response. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ropic+Response check out the links there, they go into what it could mean, in some cases it's serious.
Bottom line having your heart rate decrease at constant workload is the exact opposite of normal unless the decrease occurs very early in the activity, that's just my oppinion though.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:37 AM   #8 (permalink)

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I have found my HR lowering about ten minutes into LSD training too. I always thought it was just my body settling in. I'm not concerned.
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