Getting knocked out

crpz32 · 07-05-2009, 01:14 PM

Most people would agree that once you get knocked out, it is easier to get knocked out again (i.e. Wanderlai Silva).
Does the opposite hold true? I mean if you get hit really hard but does not get knocked out, does your threshold for knockout go up? Kinda like "what does not kill you makes you stronger"?
Or is it the opposite? does your durability go down and make it easier for you to get knocked out later?

RedNeckJiuJitsu · 07-05-2009, 02:25 PM

I think this is more a striking question than a conditioning question TBH...

**Standard** · 07-05-2009, 02:26 PM

I think limiting the amount of hard blows to your brain would be a good thing.

Quote:

Dementia pugilistica (DP), also called chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), chronic boxer’s encephalopathy, traumatic boxer’s encephalopathy, boxer's dementia, and punch-drunk syndrome ('punchy'), is a neurological disorder which may affect career boxers, wrestlers, mixed martial artists, and football players[1] who receive multiple dazing blows to the head. Dementia pugilistica, the severe form of chronic traumatic brain injury,[2] commonly manifests as declining mental and physical abilities such as dementia and parkinsonism.

The encephalopathy develops over a period of years, with the average time of onset being about 12–16 years after the start of a career in boxing. The condition is thought to affect around 15% of professional boxers, but it rarely affects other types of athletes.[3] The condition may be caused by repeat concussions, or repeat subconcussive blows (blows that are below the threshold of force necessary to cause concussion), or both.[4] Due to the concern that boxing may cause CTE, there is a movement among medical professionals to ban the sport.[5] Medical professionals have called for such a ban since as early as the 1950s.[6]

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crpz32 · 07-05-2009, 02:42 PM

thanx. I'll try not to get dazed too much during sparring sessions.

Quest4Glory · 07-05-2009, 02:44 PM

Did you get knocked out recently...............................

lol jk but actually this is a relatively interesting question, obviously getting hit in the head is bad and it leads to some problems potentially down the road, however I had this discussion with one of my training partners we were sparring and I hit him with a flush right and he said I am surprised that didn't put me down, that would have a year or two ago, and what he said embodilized something I had been thinking about for a while, I got a pretty bad concussion about a year ago, ever since it seems like I get hit with shots of equal force and I may have a minor concussion, but I don't get the vomitting, or pounding head ache for days just you know "rocked" (aka a grade 1 concussion)

Point is I wonder if it's just maybe my cardio has gotten better or you learn to move better so the shot does less damage or you learn to take it or MAYBE just your head gets harder idk.

I can't help but think it has to do with cardio, and footwork, and just some other factor, other than our heads adapt, but it's an interesting scenario, but I am sticking with it's externalities and not our heads adapting.

**Will Jacobs** · 07-05-2009, 04:18 PM

This should be in the striking forum, but...

No. Absolutely not.

What IS true is that over time you learn how to roll and slip punches better and keep your hands up and as a result you take less damage from them.

If you've been dizzied by a punch before in sparring and then it happens in a fight, obviously you're going to know how to handle it a bit better, but the thought that you can condition your body to take damage better by repeated brain trauma is just silly to me.

Lunch Box · 07-06-2009, 02:17 AM

The last time I checked getting hit in the head was never good.

JSN · 07-06-2009, 02:19 AM

this has to be a ruse.

pittelp · 07-06-2009, 04:02 AM

It would be nice to condition yourself to prevent KO's, but its one of those things that is left up to your brain. Once your brain decides you are taking too much punishement it shuts down for self preservation. It looks like a fighter is susceptable, but the brain is protecting itself from further damage.

Pro Killer · 07-06-2009, 08:46 AM

Strengthen your neck muscles and always face forward, The best way to help not getting KO'ed is not having your head turned, Thats why circular punches like the Hooks and Uppercuts are the best for KOing people. In Muay Thai the things they teach you not to get KO'ed re chin tucked and maybe more importantly face forward at all times don't turn your head!