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11-02-2009, 06:35 PM
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do you use jump roping as apart of your conditioning or as apart of your plyo workout
im not sure whether to include that with my plyos or my conditioning day.
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11-02-2009, 07:15 PM
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i havent touched a jump rope since elementary o__O
but go ahead and add it to your conditioning..matter of fact play double dutch with the neighborhood kids lol
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11-02-2009, 08:00 PM
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you can do it for conditioning if you can maintain a steady pace for a while.
I cant jump rope for crap so I wouldnt even think about it for conditioning/cardio work for myself.
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11-02-2009, 08:30 PM
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Jumping rope is a great conditioning tool. There is a reason boxers skip rope. I like to use it as a station in a circuit. For example, last week I did:
4 rounds:
100 rope turns
1/4 mile sprint
10 burpees
60 seconds rest
To be effective as a conditioning tool, you do first need to build some basic competency so you rarely get tangled up or step on the rope and stop.
If you a very heavy, you may not want to do too much. I have heard heavier guys can develop knee problems with too much jumping.
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11-02-2009, 11:32 PM
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It's a great conditioning tool. If you have a dedicated plyometric day, you can do this afterwards. But really it's more for conditioning that developing power. I often jump rope for5-10 minutes before and after strength training. Sometimes I will jump rope in between rounds of shadowboxing with the Bas Rutten CDs.
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11-03-2009, 09:25 AM
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Aren't plyo workouts apart of conditioning?
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11-03-2009, 09:53 AM
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Mix plyo with conditioning.
I would do 5 5 min rounds focusing on pulling endurance, pushing, strength and cardio endurance and last round mixing things up.
all rounds consist of 5 stations pretty much like caveman training.
See Sean Sherk's training, Wnaderlei or brock lesner.
So basically im mixing everything up hence its called MMA.
I hate doing cardio (conditioning) on its own. THATS my opinion, do what you like.
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11-03-2009, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mikehmike
Aren't plyo workouts apart of conditioning? 
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No, that's a common misconception. Plyometrics are meant to increase power and conditioning is meant to increase, well, conditioning. You can jump around for conditioning if you want but if you're doing a true plyometric workout (depth jumps, shock jumps, etc.) you'll burn out and it will be counterproductive if you take it to the point of exhaustion as you would for conditioning. It's like the difference between speed training and running for conditioning.
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11-03-2009, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtremist
Mix plyo with conditioning.
I would do 5 5 min rounds focusing on pulling endurance, pushing, strength and cardio endurance and last round mixing things up.
all rounds consist of 5 stations pretty much like caveman training.
See Sean Sherk's training, Wnaderlei or brock lesner.
So basically im mixing everything up hence its called MMA.
I hate doing cardio (conditioning) on its own. THATS my opinion, do what you like.
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Dude, you serious?
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Originally Posted by chia
No, that's a common misconception. Plyometrics are meant to increase power and conditioning is meant to increase, well, conditioning. You can jump around for conditioning if you want but if you're doing a true plyometric workout (depth jumps, shock jumps, etc.) you'll burn out and it will be counterproductive if you take it to the point of exhaustion as you would for conditioning. It's like the difference between speed training and running for conditioning.
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Conditioning means placing measured stress on your body with the intention of causing certain adaptations. That includes strenght and power too.
Also, people don`t just do stuff "to exhaustion".
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11-03-2009, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paolo27th
Conditioning means placing measured stress on your body with the intention of causing certain adaptations. That includes strenght and power too.
Also, people don`t just do stuff "to exhaustion".
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Uhhhh, thanks? Conditioning can be one your "strengths" too if you want to think about it like that. I guess you could also condition your sport-specific skills too. Why don't we just merge all the training forums into the conditioning forum...
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean when I say conditioning. I thought it was common sense. If you still haven't figured it out I'm talking about energy systems training. It's not the same as speed or power training.
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