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Originally Posted by Smash your face in
Another person I speak to on a forum who is a physician said exactly the same thing to me. He was saying people have been brought into the ER after suffering all sorts of injuries at the hands of Chiropractors.
Could you please give us some more information on why they should be avoided and who it would be better to see in relation to spinal issues.
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Hey guys, okay here's the deal. Chiro's come in many shapes and forms. Some are gentle others are heavy handed. Gentle ones aren't too bad but there is a conflict of interest in the way the deal their "medicine". In short, chiro's re-set your spine or other part of your body without giving you the proper education and further treatment to keep those areas where they just re-set them to be. The soft tissue around the spine (muscles, ligaments, tendon, fascia, etc) have a certain tensile strength to them which may be more or less depending on spasms and other variables. Those are responsible for naturally pulling your spine (and other parts of body) out of whack but also release during sleep. Unless you have a weird condition or injury or sleep funny -- your spine naturally "re-aligns" itself ... so the general population has nothing to worry about. As for the more specifics:
Their most fundamental claim is that your body is "out of alignment" and needs to be "adjusted". Basically, the most common stereotypical deal is that they will examine you and say your spine is curved in a very minute manner in the "wrong direction". Everyone has a base-level or "neutral" position. Sometimes its anatomically correct, other times its not (ie. scoliosis or just plain bad posture). What they do is they forcibly return the spinal column back into the anatomical neutral setting. For some people this is VERY BAD because your spine may not bend in that direction. Also, they use what is called "grade 5" manipulations. This is a very forcible thrust, turn, pull, push, etc. to move your spinal column around.
The most common injury from chiros comes from the low back and the neck (cervical spine). The low back is a very heavy and sturdy set of veterbrae. IT SHOULD NOT BE MANIPULATED IN SUCH A MANNER. Its okay to do grade 3's and such to the low back but not 4 and especially not 5. The neck is the most common issue w/ chiros because to reset the cervical spine you as a patient need to be COMPLETELY RELAXED, absolutely cooperative, and have ZERO muscle tone. This is nearly impossible unless you go to a chiro constantly (which is where the ethics get messed up because they will crank you... then tell you to come back for a re-check.. all of which does absolutely nothing because your spine will re-set itself into the "bad" position anyways after a day or so... then you just keep coming back for the sound of the "crack"). ANYWAYS .... when you have muscle tone and someone cranks you... a reflex reaction in your muscles will turn the opposite way from the crank and SEVERELY STRAIN AND SPRAIN the muscles, fascia, tendons, ligaments, and vetebral column of interest.
This is why ppl end up in the ER and such. Its never the same day.... its THE NEXT DAY like in Seinfield.... Elaine comes into the apt. not able to move her neck. Thats EXACTLY what happens and believe me i've seen it a dozen times in my clinic .. its MISERY!!!
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I was also wondering how easily that could happen when popping my neck? I mean I would have to do it pretty violently for that to happen right? Cause now I'm a little scared of popping my neck.
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I ask this as I suffered from a pulled lower back (deadlifts and bent over dumbell rows). I began to recover but I then pulled it again and now it is very tight and unstable and feels as if it needs 'clicking' back into a proper alignment..
Many thanks for any advice you could offer, your input is greatly appreciated!!
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Yes, to severely injure the neck by self cracking you need to do it VERY violently and in typically a side bending/back gliding twisting motion. Its complicated but it has happened. Mostly when ppl are driving in the car, rushed, stressed, feeling the need to crack & they hit a bump or almost get hit by a car then snap. its over. maybe not death but the next day you are doomed.
if you gently manipulate your neck... don't worry about it. i do that all the time.
as for Smashing -- your back was probably strained/disc compression. You should see your primary care doctor or go to Urgent Care or see a Physiatrist for confirmation of what happened + x-ray... and obtain a referral for Physical Therapy.
There a therapist will be able to "click" your back into proper place and also be able to teach you how to keep it there and not have future injuries when lifting and such.
WOW!!!
what a rant!
haha.. just tell me if u have any more questions .. i may not always be online so PM me and nudge me if i'm unresponsive on the forum.
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