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Old 10-03-2006, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)

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conditioning problems!

I've been putting a lot of thought into conditioning for grappling/fighting and am trying to figure out what works, what works best and what doesn't. I always seem to eventually gas and that is usually my downfall. So far these are the plans I have found that haven't given me the cardio I need:

Plan 1:
Running 3 miles, 3 days a week at 20-21 minutes
Lifting 3 times a week, medium wt and medium reps, for about 1 hour
grappling 3-4 times a week, 3 minute rounds rest 1 minute, about an hour
Eating very well

Plan 2:
No running
Same lifting routine as before
Grappling/mma 5 days a week, 1.5 hours each, busting ass
Eating very well


I have been asking around quite a bit to try and figure out whats missing. I'm thinking about trying something completely different that includes sprint intervals and swimming.

Does anyone have the same problems or have any suggestions? I am open to trying whatever, thanks!
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Old 10-04-2006, 09:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I always seem to eventually gas...
Do you gas more from the sudden bursts of energy (combination throwing or bursts of hard grappling) and get winded from it?? Or is it more of a late fight deal where you've used all your energy??

If it's the former, then try intensity type of work, like 400M repeats (would actually work well on the latter also). Also, if access to a treadmill, Bas Rutten stated hill repeats of around 10-15% inclines of 45 seconds on, 30 seconds rest (maybe the other way around). This is very intense.

If it's the latter (late fight fatigue), then maybe increase the amount of rounds you're sparring, while running a little farther (without injuring yourself). In other words, do things longer. Easier said then done though, I know.
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Thanks for the input guys. As far as saying I eventually gas, thats kinda misleading after I thought about it. Gassing from the short bursts of energy is the problem.
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In that case it might be that you're lacking muscle endurance...

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Old 10-05-2006, 12:24 PM   #6 (permalink)

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If you want to get better at grappling endurance, then the best thing to do is to grapple. Other conditioning sould be supplemental to that, not cutting into it. So from what you listed, I'd go with plan #2. Anyway, definitely doing speed workouts will help you out a lot. Ive gotten much better results from doing things like running stairs (intensely for say, 5 minute rounds) than I have from distance running.
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