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Old 09-21-2007, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)

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can any doctors verify this?

i read that if you exercise and feel pain, as long as the pain does not impair your form or make you compensate, you're ok. is this true? please tell whether you are a nurse or doctor or whatever you are. thanks
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:43 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I'm not doctor, but what kind of pain are we talking here? Slight wrist sprain or burning agony in your chest cavity? Obviously the specifics are most important.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:35 PM   #3 (permalink)

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My background is in Athletic Training, so almost all of my experience with injuries are with athletes who usually (although not always) have athletic injuries.
Your toeing a dangerous line when pushing through pain. In the course of returning from an injury I typically advise people that if it hurts that means it's too much too soon. Your average musculoskeletal injury like a strain or a sprain will feel 100% before it is actually healed 100% and capabale of taking the same pre-injury stress. While pain typically means to some extent reinjury, there are occasions when it is appropriate to push through a little discomfort, but if you have to ask then you probably should ease off when you feel pain.
That said, pain and hurt means different things to different people, different injuries and diseases all feel different and have different intensities and characteristics. I've seen a kid who cut his thumb off with a table saw beg a doctor NOT to give him a novacaine injection because the injection hurt worse than losing his thumb.

The only advice I can give you is to go see someone who can tell you if it is safe or a good idea to push through it, that's not something anyone can tell you over the internet.

Oh, if you're talking about chest pain as described here http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4472 then you need to stop the activity immediately and see a doctor ASAP.

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Old 09-21-2007, 04:24 PM   #4 (permalink)

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i read that if you exercise and feel pain, as long as the pain does not impair your form or make you compensate, you're ok. is this true? please tell whether you are a nurse or doctor or whatever you are. thanks
it is not ok. pain is a sensation that is associated with current or potential tissue trauma. once pain is felt, it should be an indication that there is dysfunction present. When the pain subsides, the dysfunction is still present, and the pain may even appear again but in a different place in the body (back pain to knee pain) spreading the dysfunction (the body is a closed loop and the problem has to go somewhere)

remember, any site that experiences pain will result in a series of steps to self-protect. one of the more dramatic of these is the nervous system will down regulate the amount of force and velocity that you can produce from the surrounding area. An example of this is a sprained ankle decreasing muscular control and strength in the hip. You may not notice this at first, but all training is cumulative and so is dysfunction. If not fixed, your longevity as a fighter or whatever your sport of choice will be impaired....and considering how high-risk MMA is....don't risk long term success for the sake of instant gratification.

get assessed - find the dysfunction - fix it - move on.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:33 PM   #5 (permalink)

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i'm talking about pain in my knees and ankles that stays there but doesn't affect the way i move.

i've been injured for 2 years and i think that the pain is residual pain (the injury has healed but the nervous system still reports pain).
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:56 PM   #6 (permalink)

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If you have chronic pain in your knees and ankles then it would be a safe bet that it affects the way you move whether you realize it or not.
What type of injury causes pain in your knees and ankles?
And what is this "residual pain"? I've heard of phantom pain, like when a limb is severed there is still the sensation of having that limb and feeling pain and other sensations in it, but I've never heard of pain from a completely and properly healed injury unless some type of permanent damage was done.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:33 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Stop immediately if the pain is sharp (like a knife)

Stop immediately if the pain is getting worse

Stop immediately if its joint or chest pain

A dull ache in your muscles is generally ok
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:34 PM   #8 (permalink)

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residual pain = injury heals but there's still pain, sort of like in the phantom limb phenomena.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:14 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Hard to make that call over the internet. You have to know your own body. I have worked through some pain before and ended up hurting myself much worse. I ran on severe stress fractures to the point where I could not walk and then was off running for about 3 years.

Some pain is to be expected, but pain comes in many flavors. What exactly hurts and how does it feel?
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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geez, isn't this against the forum rules?

go see a friggen physical therapist. They'll zap those bad boys and make you do some special exercises; and probably answer your questions better than someone shmuck like me on the internet. And stop ejaculating so much; its like getting rid of the cushion in your knees.
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Now, if that person was made of iron then he/she could go for the submission but of course has to be careful with positioning simply due to the pain.
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