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Old 05-11-2006, 05:05 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Ive made pretty good progress latley, but haven't done much direct shoulder work. My overhead press is very weak, along with my bench which leads me to believe my shoulders are weak altogether. When i use light weight for militarys my right shoulder pops and gets very very stiff, even with extremley light weight. I need some suggestions on where to place my shoulder workouts, ive heard putting them on my bench day wouldn't be smart. Should i throw them in on my Deadlift day along with rows, pullups, forearm and calf work?
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Most here throw em in with bench. I did some reps of clean n press last week and loved it.
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i usually do the shoulders and back on the same day...
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:45 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Bux after reading your thread about skinny legs i think i wont listen to you....
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Old 05-11-2006, 06:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Do you experience any joint pains in the shoulder that are preventing you from doing pressing? There is a good series of articles that just came out on T-Nation about shoulder health which you should definitely read.

If you shoulders are healthy and the pop doesn't restrict movement, feel unstable, or cause pain, try adding overhead pressing. Standing overhead presses are one of the top upper body exercises. Depending on your training goals, I would switch pressing priority to overhead pressing from bench press if you feel that the shoulders are a weak point. Most people place too much emphasis on the bench press and not enough on standing presses, which are a great athletic movement. Try doing overhead presses first on your bench or push day then supplement with bench press, board presses, close grip bench presses, or floor presses.
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Do you experience any joint pains in the shoulder that are preventing you from doing pressing? There is a good series of articles that just came out on T-Nation about shoulder health which you should definitely read.

If you shoulders are healthy and the pop doesn't restrict movement, feel unstable, or cause pain, try adding overhead pressing. Standing overhead presses are one of the top upper body exercises. Depending on your training goals, I would switch pressing priority to overhead pressing from bench press if you feel that the shoulders are a weak point. Most people place too much emphasis on the bench press and not enough on standing presses, which are a great athletic movement. Try doing overhead presses first on your bench or push day then supplement with bench press, board presses, close grip bench presses, or floor presses.
Ya the joint pops hard, a lot of pain. Figured i wouldn't complain and id stick it through but i would be pressing a hell of alot more if i could move my shoulder up and down properly.
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Old 05-12-2006, 08:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I've torn the rotator cuff in my right shoulder and partially separated my left. I never saw a doctor for either until years later. Now I have bursitis in both shoulders. Coincidence? Maybe, but I recommend you get it checked out.
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is there a weight light enough that you can do whee it doesn't pop? maybe you could work it out like that and try and see if you can prevent further popppin by strengthening up ur shoulder
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Like others, my advice is to see a doctor. My “guess” is that if it's popping and very painful it might be dislocating it's self. If it is, strengthening the rotator cuffs and general shoulder area may help. Ultimately you may need surgery in order to tighten things up. My shoulder grinds, clicks, or pops (depending on individual definition) but it's not painful. It's due to multiple injuries and surgeries (arthritis). If you are saying "the joint pops hard, a lot of pain" that indicates to me that it may be a problem that requires medical attention.
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