S&P FAQ - Please Read

[CanadianRage43]

You can;t do a 5x5 workout and train mma. For training mma you shoudl be doing plyometrics and lots of explosive lifts. I would like to see GSP's complete workout program. I was thinking of doing something like upper body, lower body then one day of plyometrics.

[finnegan]

Originally Posted by mma-wire.com

You can;t do a 5x5 workout and train mma. For training mma you shoudl be doing plyometrics and lots of explosive lifts. I would like to see GSP's complete workout program. I was thinking of doing something like upper body, lower body then one day of plyometrics.

Umm. Yes you can.

[BlastBeats]

A simple 5x5 routine is much better than a suprising number of fighters' actual strength routines who, as is said many times in S&P, succeed inspite of their routine, not because of it. Though, I don't think anyone would argue against explosive movements like power cleans and different kinds of snatches being a staple of a fighter's routine. Pistols also seem like a good idea. Ross also has a plethora of great strength/conditioning exercises for fighters.

[Klotz]

A lot of those guys doing their 100 burpees in the conditioning forum are also in S&P testing their 1 rep maxes. I'm willing to wager that nearly every amateur/pro fighter in this forum as well as the guys who train for it all use a program that follows what's outlined in this thread. It's all about balance. If you're also training MMA and doing lots of conditioning, you'll probably have to tone down the weights a bit.

[Mark Limbaga]

over and over again. not everyone wants to be a heavy powerlifter, some people need to maintain weight, some people care about the way they look more than others also, i just think maybe the faq needs some greater unity with conditioning, and fitting in with mma training/ma training.

maybe if there was an mma specific sub forum or something or added to an existing faq, that could be written by someone who manages both strength and conditioning (like the pro/am fighters you mentioned)

like how to fit in a 5x5 routine with conditioning for fighting, and stuff on resting, listening to your body, what kind of week routines worked for them, stuff on training twice a day, how to manage it all together etc

Let's stop dealing with semantics here.

Not everyone here is a powerlifter, tho others can easily break some records.

If you have questions regarding conditioning, just ask

[Revok]

I agree with re-animator on several of his points, but not that there ought to be a dedicated mma training subforum. All the relevant knowledge is here - compartmentalised for the sake of easy browsing - but here. It's up to each individual to put their own program together as they see fit. If you want to know how people put the peices together as an effective whole, check the training logs.

[Clint07]

Originally Posted by re-animator

when i see pro fighter training clip, i hardly ever see max strength training, is this more so because they have already developed good max strength from a powerlifting type routine or are their different reasons im not aware of? like you see ufc all access, never see the fighters cranking out 300lbs deadlifts, matt hughes and rich franklin used machines in their workouts! couture,gsp,chuck etc seemed to mix their strength training with their conditioning training. maybe im looking to far into pro fighters training clips.

thats enough rambling on for me.

The big point I think to remember here is that fighters train differently as a fight approaches. As you get closer to a fight your sparring will get more and more intense (as will your conditioning training) so a fighter will have to cut most (or all) max strength training to keep from overtraining. Then between fights they can pick it back up.

If you want some reading material, I think Ross Enamait's Infinite Intensity does a good job of combining strength and cardio for a fighter and explains how to arrange a program properly.

[Mark Limbaga]

You also have to consider that the videos you see are either only a part of what a fighter really does or totally the opposite of how they really train and show it to throw people off

[Zerocrew1984]

some more info on assistance exercises

http://www.fitnessforoneandall.com/p...assistance.htm

[rwebernick]

Smashius, I've been reading around on the forums about kettlebells, and seems like a lot of bashing of people bringing up questions. I think you do a good job of explaining the pros and cons of kettlebells here in the faq.

I think one thing worth mentioning when someone posts about how awesome the kettlebell workout was, is that its not just the type of weight that you lift that makes the workout. Most of the kettlebell workouts people are talking about are structured very differently than what people are used to, usually leaning towards higher reps with full body explosive movements. I think people may not get that you can duplicate most of these moves with a dumbell or barbell.