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07-23-2008, 12:56 AM
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Pulling with lower body
I was thinking about the main lifts that I perform routinely (squat, deadlift, bench, OHP and weighted pull ups), and I realized that they trained pulling and pushing strength with the upper body, but only pushing strength with the lower body. So I began asking myself:
1) am I right about this, or is there some physiological flaw in my thinking?
2) isn't pulling with lower body important too, as far as grappling is concerned?
2) what exercise could I do to train pulling strength with lower body?
it should be some compound lift, and I think it should in fact be the opposite motion of a deadlift or squar, or so it seems to me... So I imagined this: catching a pull-up bar, attach weigth to my feet in some way, and lift the legs in the exact reverse motion of a squat. I'm not sure if there is a form that could involve in a compound way both abds and legs in a pulling motion... Maybe this exercise do exist and have a name, I couldn't find. Or maybe it would not work at all. I'll try it as soon as I can anyway. My final question is:
3) is this a good idea? or some noob and stupid idea?
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07-23-2008, 01:06 AM
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you could do sled drags with it attached to your ankles.
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07-23-2008, 01:13 AM
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You're talking about hip flexion/raising your knees. You can do them and it's not dumb (unless you have chronically tight hp flexors, then DON'T).
But you're pulling every single time you do a squat and deadlift. I think maybe a lot of people don't really know how the hamstrings work, but they are the biggest pulling muscle in the lower body. You're already using it. A LOT.
So, to answer your question: You don't need to do anything else, unless you feel like your hamstrings are weak/under-developed. And, you're probably working your other "pulling" muscles (the hip flexors) every single time you do abs (assuming you do them. See the Ab-accountability log if not) - they're extremely hard to avoid using when performing abs (spinal flexion).
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07-23-2008, 03:44 AM
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Deadlifts are a pulling exercise with a lot of pressure on the legs, I think your lifts are fine.
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07-23-2008, 10:11 AM
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Cable Pullthroughs will give you a big booty.
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07-23-2008, 10:23 AM
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I've been meaning to try doing hanging knee raises with a dumbbell between my feet.
If it works, I may rig up a small dip belt-type apparatus that fits around my ankles, so I can use plates.
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07-23-2008, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flak
I've been meaning to try doing hanging knee raises with a dumbbell between my feet.
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This used to be a staple in my workouts, I think I paid for it a couple years later when I started concentrating on my squats more.
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07-23-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ahab
This used to be a staple in my workouts, I think I paid for it a couple years later when I started concentrating on my squats more.
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What do you mean? Did it mess up your squatting ability?
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