[cockysprinter]

i have power to the people, but i dont think its anything special. i wouldnt recomend 2 sets of 5, but rest is ok.

[stewy37]

Power to the People was the first book I got that stressed strength over bodybuilding. I don't think you can put him in with Furey because he does tout the value of heavy compund lifts: deadlifts, bench press, squats, military press. His gimmicks and overabundence of ads are annoying and some of his claims are ridiculous. I used the program in the book about 1.5 years ago, and it did work but it's overly simplistic. One upper body press and deadlifts for 2 sets of 5 just aren't enough. The book has some good info for someone being introduced to lifting for strength purposes, but better programs can be found in the stickies.

[yomon]

Originally Posted by ENTROPY

Pavel Tsatsouline is on par with Matt Furey.

Much of what is stated in “Power to the people” falls into one or more of the following categories:

* Obvious.

* Exagerrated.

* Rehashed old school.

* Complete bullfuckenmonkeyshit!

*CLAPS*

when it comes down to it, all training knowledge that actualy works well falls under the Obvious catagory. i really don't see why you need someone with a PHD to tell you how to make gains.

[Duncon76]

Carlos Santana...he in the same class as Pavel and Furey ?? Louie Simmons too ???

[ENTROPY]

Originally Posted by farmboy

I didn't know Pavel was nearly as despised at Furey. I guess Matt's just more obnoxious and easier to mock.

He is not despised by most; in fact he’s liked by many so called lifters in some forums.

Interestingly, the following is also true about many in the forums:

* They don’t know shit about lifting.

* They love the mysticism of super secret, spetznaz techniques.

* They don’t know what it feels like to have 14 plates strapped across they’re backs.

Originally Posted by krellik

krellik I cant agree that Pavel is on the same level as Furey, thats just not true.

If it’s not true, then answer the following question for me:

Is it possible to put on several inches of size on your arms in as little as 6 weeks, using secret spetznaz set and rep protocol?

Originally Posted by Madmick

I don't know, man, I've been wondering that myself, but too insecure to say anything, since it seemed he was so highly regarded here, and I know very little about him.

But his kettlebell book is good, right, Entropy?

Fortunately, I haven’t read it.

Originally Posted by rickdog

I have used KB's on occasion and I actually used the programs from "Power to the People".

I really never thought of him on the same level as Matt before either but i'm starting to wonder.

Entropy, can you explain why you have Pavel on the same level as Furey, in more depth please.

A so called training grandmaster, who claims that his secret spetznaz techniques will add several inches of size on your arms in as little as 6 weeks speaks volumes of his character, his integrity as a trainer, and his extreme lack of elementary logic.

“A sucker is born every minute.”
P.T Barnum

The worst kind of lie is that which is cleverly infused with elements of truth and lie.

Rat poison is 98% food, otherwise the rats wouldn’t go anywhere near it.

Originally Posted by Fedorable

I don't think that comparision is fair since Pavel hasn't unleashed his theory of gorilla-like strength yet.

It is a beginner book and I would rather have someone reading that then muscle and fitness and it has some interesting things in it. Since it is a beginner book, i think being obvious and rehashing old school thinking is expected. It isn't obvious to some beginners. The book doesn't have much information in it per page and it has a lot of ads and costs a lot, so that is the Matt Furey comparision. Urban's workout has some things in common with it. I got it for free so I don't mind. Send me a PM if you want ot know where to buy it for really cheap ;) .

Bro I’ve been at this game for over a decade, and was thoroughly disappointed given the acclaim it got from those who should’ve (or so I thought) known better.

Could you please PM me with a copy, I threw out my copy 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Flounder

Thanks for the input guys. Maybe I'll try the Power to the People program for a while. I'm a beginner, and need to build some core strength, and I'll see how that goes.

I don’t blame you.

I wouldn’t mind increasing my arm size to 21 inches in a few weeks.

Take my word for it, there is far more valuable training in this forum, and you don’t have to spend $30 dollars for it.

[Madmick]

Originally Posted by ENTROPY

Rat poison is 98% food, otherwise the rats wouldn’t go anywhere near it.

A beautiful ****phor.

[datadog]

Originally Posted by CarnalSalvation

The only guy as bad as Matt, is John Wood with his "functional handstength".

I was looking through his site and thought it was okay till I came across proof that he shall have a special place to burn in hell. He played high school football in Ohio, then played college at UM. For the love of god the man is a traitor to his State. 117 other D1A schools to choose, and he chooses the arch-rival. Maybe he'll be at that Mich Grip Comp when Carnal pounds that dude so I can practice my sledgehammer techniques.

Plus, what is up with the cost on his anodized grippers? 54 bucks for a CoC rip-off.... nice

[krellik]

Originally Posted by ENTROPY

If it’s not true, then answer the following question for me:

Is it possible to put on several inches of size on your arms in as little as 6 weeks, using secret spetznaz set and rep protocol?

That do sound like bullshit to me. But that doesnt change the fact that Pavel isnt Furey. The man has done good things like popularising kettlebells for instance.

[datadog]

Originally Posted by CarnalSalvation

The only guy as bad as Matt, is John Wood with his "functional handstength".

I was looking through his site and thought it was okay till I came across proof that he shall have a special place to burn in hell. He played high school football in Ohio, then played college at UM. For the love of god the man is a traitor to his State. 117 other D1A schools to choose, and he chooses the arch-rival. Maybe he'll be at that Mich Grip Comp when Carnal pounds that dude so I can practice my sledgehammer techniques.

Plus, what is up with the cost on his anodized grippers? 54 bucks for a CoC rip-off.... nice

[Fedorable]

Entrophy - I just sent this email to you, but it didn't work, so here is what I wrote:

i need your email to send the book if you weren't just being sarcastic.

If you've been lifting for 7 years at the point when you bought that book, then shame on you. The book wasn't meant for you.

If you started out doing 3 sets of 12 reps (which you were if someone didn't get you started in the right direction at first, then the book would have some value.