[bombing]

Originally Posted by fat_wilhelm

A jerk is a bit more than kicking back. The purpose of the leg split is actually to rapidly drop your body position, catching the bar overhead. It's not so much a press as it is the ability to drop into lockout, then stand w/ the bar overhead. There's some pressing involved, but it's a technique thing.

Alon???

oh, so a snatch is a jerk without the split right?

[Brand Nizzle]

Yeah whats the difference between a clean and jerk, and a clean and snatch?

[Ted-P]

The snatch


The Jerk



I think...

[Brand Nizzle]

Damn...snatch looks hard. lol

[fat_wilhelm]

Originally Posted by Brand Nizzle

Damn...snatch looks hard. lol

It is. I normally only do them w/ dumbells, one arm at a time.

[Urban]

I definitely don't squat that much on my snatches. here's the easy way to think of these lifts: they're a throw and a catch without letting go of the bar.
Clean - the pull is powerful enough to throw the weight up and you catch it in front squat position.
Snatch is a similar throw, but you catch the bar overhead. NO PRESSING IT OUT.

A pushpress is an overhead press with leg drive without splitting your legs into lunge position (IMO it's ok to squat a little to catch the bar at near lockout, essentially pushing yourself down under the weight). By contrast a jerk is as much pushing the weight overhead as it is pushing yourself down beneath it (maybe even more of the latter), and involves splitting the legs into lunge position. The jerk has more "throw and catch" to the technique, and is typically much faster and more capable of moving weight overhead once you learn the technique.

I don't have the first fucking clue how to do any of this properly, I'm completely self taught, but these are the basic principles. It aint rocket surgery, but it aint curls either.

[BabyPhenom]

Originally Posted by Urban

Clean and press 225! both a clean PR and a push press PR. THAT'S RIGHT BITCHES!! 2 plates for oiban! FUCK YOU COLE! Cole (my lifting partner) has passed my best push press last week with a 215 PP, while I maxed out at 210 thursday. I'd say a 15 lb PR in a week is pretty good progress, plus I BEAT HIM! It's more fun when you have a partner to compete with. I took a shot at 230 but it was a no go after hitting 215, 220, and 225. TWO WHEELS MOTHER FUCKERS!!!

I assume you're using the single knee bend?

[BabyPhenom]

Originally Posted by Urban

I definitely don't squat that much on my snatches. here's the easy way to think of these lifts: they're a throw and a catch without letting go of the bar.
Clean - the pull is powerful enough to throw the weight up and you catch it in front squat position.
Snatch is a similar throw, but you catch the bar overhead. NO PRESSING IT OUT.

A pushpress is an overhead press with leg drive without splitting your legs into lunge position (IMO it's ok to squat a little to catch the bar at near lockout, essentially pushing yourself down under the weight). By contrast a jerk is as much pushing the weight overhead as it is pushing yourself down beneath it (maybe even more of the latter), and involves splitting the legs into lunge position. The jerk has more "throw and catch" to the technique, and is typically much faster and more capable of moving weight overhead once you learn the technique.

I don't have the first fucking clue how to do any of this properly, I'm completely self taught, but these are the basic principles. It aint rocket surgery, but it aint curls either.

I remember Mike Burgener saying that the clean is a missed power clean

[Urban]

Originally Posted by BabyPhenom

I assume you're using the single knee bend?

Single knee bend? The weight comes from the floor to clean position. i stabilize it, then pop it overhead with a pushpress. uh... does that answer your question?

Originally Posted by BabyPhenom

I remember Mike Burgener saying that the clean is a missed power clean

I'd like to power clean everything, but I have trouble with not dipping at all. My cleans are far from a full clean, but thay're not without some flex in the knees. They say there's some athleticism developed in the catch of a clean from having to move under the bar and whatnot... but I'm not sure I buy that. Really I just like moving a weight from the floor to overhead.?

[BabyPhenom]

Originally Posted by Urban

Single knee bend? The weight comes from the floor to clean position. i stabilize it, then pop it overhead with a pushpress. uh... does that answer your question?

I'd like to power clean everything, but I have trouble with not dipping at all. My cleans are far from a full clean, but thay're not without some flex in the knees. They say there's some athleticism developed in the catch of a clean from having to move under the bar and whatnot... but I'm not sure I buy that. Really I just like moving a weight from the floor to overhead.?

Yup question answered. I wonder how much you can push press using a double knee bend