P90x - Page 3

Oblivian · 01-04-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SMillard

in his defense, what is stength training for some would be conditioning for most of the rest of us. If i throw my wife on the pull up bar she is doing stength training since she can't crank out more than two or three, for me I need the weighted vest to get the same results.

Maybe the guy was really weak.

I'm not saying that you can't gain some strength on pullups, but I would never call a routine with the set/rep/rest scheme as P90x does, along with the lack of back squats, deadlifts, and the general use of heavy weight as a "solid strength training routine". That's ridiculous.

Corrosion · 01-04-2010, 10:27 AM

I had a hunch when I opened this thread that Oblivian would be posting in it!

Oblivian · 01-04-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Corrosion

I had a hunch when I opened this thread that Oblivian would be posting in it!

I just can't stand when people say it's something that it's not. I can't believe consumers buy into shitty marketing as they do. Sure, the system can make you lose weight and get in better shape, but it's NOT a solid strength training routine.

SMillard · 01-04-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oblivian

I'm not saying that you can't gain some strength on pullups, but I would never call a routine with the set/rep/rest scheme as P90x does, along with the lack of back squats, deadlifts, and the general use of heavy weight as a "solid strength training routine". That's ridiculous.

I just used pull ups as an example. Probably not a really good one as most people shy away from the pull up bar. Hell I have to force my wife to get on the bar.

My point was that if someone is really weak, maybe P90x could help them gain some strength. Although if I was that weak I sure as hell wouldn't be advertising to anyone, especially on here.

Valentine Wolff · 01-04-2010, 11:13 AM

I used p90x when I was 18 for 5 months. It was awesome for me. I loved it. Now Ive moved past it though.

Oblivian · 01-04-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SMillard

I just used pull ups as an example. Probably not a really good one as most people shy away from the pull up bar. Hell I have to force my wife to get on the bar.

My point was that if someone is really weak, maybe P90x could help them gain some strength. Although if I was that weak I sure as hell wouldn't be advertising to anyone, especially on here.

If someone is completely weak, a routine of pushups, BW squats, and pullups could help them gain strength. With that said, it is not a "solid strength training program", even if all of those factors are true.

~JM~ · 01-04-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ~JM~

Try this instead :

YouTube - HANNIBAL FOR KING

No one else votes Hannibal for King?

Steak · 01-04-2010, 02:35 PM

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I'm not getting it to get off the couch, I run cross country for my high school. It's just that I was looking for a more challenging workout. I thought it would help me but from what i'm getting so far is that it's just a waste of money. Thanks for saving me about $120.

It's good for weight loss.

If you want to gain weight do Heavy Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Pull ups, dips, Overhead Press, Bent over Rows and eat a lot. That's how you gain weight. Do curls and other stuff like that along side the core exercises if you want to get big. Curls are like adding Christmas ornaments to a Christmas Tree. Without the core lifts, their is no tree. Just something to keep in mind.

TigerArm · 01-04-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oblivian

I just can't stand when people say it's something that it's not. I can't believe consumers buy into shitty marketing as they do. Sure, the system can make you lose weight and get in better shape, but it's NOT a solid strength training routine.

Okay okay, so maybe 'solid strength training routine' was a bad choice of words with all you crazy powerlifters lurking on this board.

Mostly i just wanted to illustrate that there is more to it than silly cardio. Again, it's marketed to couch potato slobs; (or super scrawny dudes in my case, i hadn't lifted at all since high school.) these kinds of people will defintely put on muscle. For example, YouTube - p90x days 1 through 90 that guy definitely put on some muscle, and there are probably even better examples; this was just a random vid i pulled off youtube.

Did you guys read the rest of my post or just pick out that one line to tear me a new asshole with? lol. The guy says multiple times in the videos to vary your rep scheme to suit your goals. If you want to get big, theres nothing stopping you from lifting heavy and doing lower reps. (This can be kind of challenging since most of it is pushups/pullups/bodyweight leg exercise, but you can always just buy a weighted vest.) I also did mention that i thought the leg workouts needed heavy squats.

DanteAli · 01-04-2010, 06:13 PM

p90x is a conditioning program, outside of maybe strength training your biceps/triceps, which as should be understood is a ridiculous method of 'strength training'. What p90x is good at is general fitness for a person out of shape, or could work as a conditioning program for someone who just runs.

BW squats won't get you stronger. They can be useful in helping a runner or rower though, although still not as much as using weighted back squats.

TS is a cross-country runner; not enough people were replying with that in mind. My brother did CC up through college, and although tall and in great shape, wasn't very strong. He would have benefited from p90x as far as his pullups/pushups etc. But its certainly just a beginner program as far as that goes, and not a strength training program.