[redjako]

Ha!

MRI results back, I don't have a herniated disk, but a (spelling may be off) annular tear L5/S1 disk, resulting in the bad pain.

Coo, so what can I do?

Recommendations: Never a Bent over row, no deadlifts, squatting in a smith machine to prevent "foward" leaning, and quarter squatting.


I asked him,. well, wouldn't it help to build up even with just bodyweight using natural-form squatting to strengthen the back? No, just aggravates / hurts the tear.

Strange, I would think the Smith machine due to it putting your body in an unnatural arc, would be more dangerous.


So, I'll be bodyweight and OHS with zero weights, elliptical
for now. And, eventually I'll be deading and squatting, without a Smith machine

Thoughts on this?

[Donut62]

If forward lean is the issue aggravating the tear, the reasoning behind his recommending the Shirley Machine would indicate to me that front squats might be an option as long as you don't go balls to wall heavy.

[flak]

I'm wondering if the doc meant that you should use the Shirley machine for those odd-looking back squats where your feet are placed way out in front of your hips.

Bodybuilders do them to hit the quads. Whatever else you can say about 'em, they would probably force you to keep your back vertical.

Then again, you could probably accomplish that with Zercher squats.

[Krossinc]

This sounds terrible but talk to a physical therapist. He can refer you to one so your insurance will cover it. Honestly, I always like to listen to people who are specialists in the rehabilitation of an injury. Orthopedists have their specific areas of expertise but they've really only got a 'minor' in exercise, it's not their main focus.

It's like when your family doctor tries to give you nutrition or exercise advice, he's there to heal peoples sickness, not pretend he's a nutritionist or a Physical Therapist. An Orthopedist will be more advanced in this section, but I've still heard some of the WORST exercise advice for rehabilitating an injury coming from them. I've known people with knee injuries who were told to do Leg Extensions and people with shoulder injuries who were told to do BTH presses and pull downs.

If your injury is serious, talk to a physical therapist.

[Barut]

*Waits for Stats to come in and ask if you hurt yourself lifting*

[statisticool]

Originally Posted by redjako

I asked him,. well, wouldn't it help to build up even with just bodyweight using natural-form squatting to strengthen the back? No, just aggravates / hurts the tear.

Strange, I would think the Smith machine due to it putting your body in an unnatural arc, would be more dangerous.

I'd imagine it is for stability purposes.

[JinKazama]

dude that sucks

whatever route u choose just take it easy

[SingleDoubleGuy]

Originally Posted by Barut

*Waits for Stats to come in and ask if you hurt yourself lifting*

Pretty good clairvoyant you are....

[Forcetti]

Perhaps if forward lean is the biggest problem, unilateral work such as lunges or bulgarian split squats? The torso stays as vertical as any smith squat...

What Krossinc said is also true, getting a second opinion from a good PT would be the way to go.

[Fight_Song]

Originally Posted by Donut62

If forward lean is the issue aggravating the tear, the reasoning behind his recommending the Shirley Machine would indicate to me that front squats might be an option as long as you don't go balls to wall heavy.

That's what I was thinking.


Oh and just because you're a doctor doesn't mean you have a wealth of knowledge in the weight room. I'm not saying he doesn't know his stuff, but a white coat doesn't mean he knows all.

I'd rather not squat at all than use the Shirley. Reasons?

1 - People will see you. I'd rather bench press the bar for 10 sets of 10 in front of hot chicks than use that machine.

2 - Any strength you gain probably won't help your real squat much if at all. Shirley to free weights has a similar turnover as leg press to free squats.


Try heavy split squats with dumbells if you don't want a bar on your back at all. Monster grip and strong legs will come.