hurt my back twice doing dl's, just drop this one?

[Fedorable]

despite what centaur says I would still deadlift and go light/medium and post a video on here for some critiques. In my opinion, db deadlift twists, and cleans are much harder to keep soild form and are higher risks for a back injury.

[vision1]

As long as you're not a powerlifter, deadlifts aren't nearly as important as everyone here makes them seem. There are plenty of other exercises to strengthen the back and posterior chain.

Clean and Snatch variations
DB Swings
Pull throughs
RDLs
Back Extensions
GHRs
Reverse Hypers
GMs

If you're prone to injury while deadlifting, you'll probably have the same problem with most of these movements. Figure out which ones you're capable of doing.

[Centaur]

Originally Posted by Fedorable

despite what centaur says I would still deadlift and go light/medium and post a video on here for some critiques. In my opinion, db deadlift twists, and cleans are much harder to keep soild form and are higher risks for a back injury.

I never said not to do them. And I agree; a form video would be an excellent idea.

[Meatpuppy]

Originally Posted by vision1

As long as you're not a powerlifter, deadlifts aren't nearly as important as everyone here makes them seem. There are plenty of other exercises to strengthen the back and posterior chain.

Clean and Snatch variations
DB Swings
Pull throughs
RDLs
Back Extensions
GHRs
Reverse Hypers
GMs

If you're prone to injury while deadlifting, you'll probably have the same problem with most of these movements. Figure out which ones you're capable of doing.

I disagree in that it something fundamental about lifting heavy things off the ground. I have done all the exercises mentioned and all are great assistance exercises. At some though lifting things off the ground has to be done.

[Centaur]

Originally Posted by Meatpuppy

I disagree in that it something fundamental about lifting heavy things off the ground. I have done all the exercises mentioned and all are great assistance exercises. At some though lifting things off the ground has to be done.

He did list 3 things (Clean and Snatch variations, RDLs) that involved lifting things off the ground. Maybe not 'heavy', but still fundamental lifting for sports.

Ultimately it comes down to this- you (the TS) should fix your form on the Dead and keep it in your routine. Take the time to get it down right with lower weights and get your PC back to normal again.

However, you could scrap it and still make gains in your sport specific S&P work using alternate exercises.

My last 2 cents.

[rckvl]

Originally Posted by Centaur

He did list 3 things (Clean and Snatch variations, RDLs) that involved lifting things off the ground. Maybe not 'heavy', but still fundamental lifting for sports.

Ultimately it comes down to this- you (the TS) should fix your form on the Dead and keep it in your routine. Take the time to get it down right with lower weights and get your PC back to normal again.

However, you could scrap it and still make gains in your sport specific S&P work using alternate exercises.

My last 2 cents.

I agree.

[vision1]

Originally Posted by Meatpuppy

I disagree in that it something fundamental about lifting heavy things off the ground. I have done all the exercises mentioned and all are great assistance exercises. At some though lifting things off the ground has to be done.

There are plenty of strong people who never do deadlifts. There is no such thing as a required lift (unless you're a strength athlete).

Rack pulls can also be added to the list. I have no idea what your problem with deadlifts is (upload a video...), but if it's related to flexibility, Rack pulls can be a good option as you work on improving your form.

[Meatpuppy]

Originally Posted by Centaur

He did list 3 things (Clean and Snatch variations, RDLs) that involved lifting things off the ground. Maybe not 'heavy', but still fundamental lifting for sports.

Ultimately it comes down to this- you (the TS) should fix your form on the Dead and keep it in your routine. Take the time to get it down right with lower weights and get your PC back to normal again.

However, you could scrap it and still make gains in your sport specific S&P work using alternate exercises.

My last 2 cents.

You are right in that I should have said heavy things. I just think Dls are such an important exercise that unless you are totally broken they should be done.

[F[o]rged]

Do you have any problems with your back/spine? Because, honestly, you shouldn't be getting hurt this much, even with sub-par form.

My next move would be to talk to a qualified professional and get some tests done.

[Hocky_Balboa]

Originally Posted by Centaur

He did list 3 things (Clean and Snatch variations, RDLs) that involved lifting things off the ground. Maybe not 'heavy', but still fundamental lifting for sports.

Ultimately it comes down to this- you (the TS) should fix your form on the Dead and keep it in your routine. Take the time to get it down right with lower weights and get your PC back to normal again.

However, you could scrap it and still make gains in your sport specific S&P work using alternate exercises.

My last 2 cents.

RDLs neither start, nor ever touch the ground.

Just sayin'.