[takeahnase]

Lifting makes you slow.

[WanderingSpirit]

If i remember Fedor actually was in a stage where he did powerlifting.

[joshetc]

Originally Posted by ThinkGreen

If someone starts focusing too much on lifting and not enough on technique then I think they could become a "worse" fighter.

Right.

Fighting trainers correlate bodybuilding with lifting weights. Strict bodybuilders, obviously, aren't going to be very good fighters compared to professionals. The reason has nothing to do with them lifting, and everything to do with them not training fighting.

Most people are very narrow minded. If most people are big and bad fighters, it must be them being "big" that makes them a bad fighter. People don't realize there are numerous examples across MMA of fighters that got stronger and became beasts at the same time. BJ Penn didn't suddenly become 10x better at BJJ in the last year or two, hes an order of magnitude more athletic than he previously was, though. Anyone that trains fighting, then adds maximal strength training without removing other fighting training is going to become a better fighter.

[krellik]

You will not become a magically worse fighter by raising your max strength levels, you do risk of becoming a worse fighter if strength training takes to much out of you so you cant focus 100% on your martial arts training...

Extreme example, if you would train fighting 6 days a week and started lifting weights and the added strain on your recoupery reduced your martial arts training to 3 days a week it would surely hurt your tech, it might be ballanced out by your added athleticism but propably not.. Now of course thats not a situation we should put ourselves in and there are plenty of great ways of combining martial arts, strength and conditioning, but it surely isnt an easy thing to do if your a serious fighter!

[Klotz]

Fighters that are the best in the world are that way because they are the best in the world. Fighters who aren't born the best benefit greatly from strength training.

[krellik]

Originally Posted by Klotz

Fighters that are the best in the world are that way because they are the best in the world.

Some of them also have work ethics that are out of this work and trains smarter than anyone else...

[maori rule all]

why can't life be perfect and the fight situation be based on powerlifting/strength training. Damm it Damm it Damm it.









in all seriousness though, I agree completly with everyone's replies.

[BayAreaGuy]

The proof for weight lifting not making you slow is noting that Bruce Lee was an avid weight lifter and credited it with giving him speed and power.



"But if lifting really helps that much why do alot of pro fighters succeed without it? "

Because weights isn't the only form of strength training the say way BJJ isn't the only form of submission grappling.


Fedor said he hasn't lifted weights since he started fighting, what he does is he does push ups and dips really fast, and lots of pull ups and hitting tires for "speed and power". Being 225 and doing those excersies as fast as he can, that's a good workout right there.

[Mumrik]

And throwing people around all day. One of those being his "little" brother, a far bigger man.