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Old 10-24-2007, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)

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changing routine after P/P/S

So i've been doing the P/P/S routine for about 8 months now.

Pull - Deadlifts 3x5, Rows 3x5, Weighted pull ups and chins 3x10
Push - Bench Press 3x5, Press 3x5/4, Heavy Dips 3x6, Cubans or Pullovers
Squat - Back Squats 3x5, Front Squats 3x7/8, Barbell Lunges 3x6


For the past month, my progress has stalled for all major lifts. I've recently picked up Rippetoes guide to programming and he says that for a novice that has experienced a stall stregnth a back off period is needed. So i've been resting for the past week and a half and am looking to change up my routine.

In the book he says a routine like this would be good for a novice (somone who has been training for 3 to 8 months)
Day 1 - Squat, BP, Chins
Day 2 - Front Squats, Press, Deadlifts
Day 3 - Squat, Bench, Pull ups

My question is, do you think mixing the day my lifts are done will help to jump start my progress?
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:37 AM   #2 (permalink)

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yeah, rippetoe knows his shit. You'll do well on that routine and expect to be stronger from your rest.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Switching up the days should help a good bit. The rest should help as well. Good luck.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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how much are you able to lift now?

You might want to check out The Texas Method

http://stronglifts.com/the-texas-met...diate-lifters/
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Day 1 - Squat, BP, Chins
Day 2 - Front Squats, Press, Deadlifts
Day 3 - Squat, Bench, Pull ups

I've done routines similar to that in the past. I'd run with it for awhile. I think you'll see some nice gains with it.
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:02 PM   #6 (permalink)

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I know! Do a different body part each day!
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:16 PM   #7 (permalink)

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I know! Do a different body part each day!
Don't forget the isolation work on calves and traps, too many people overlook the donkeys and bar humpers.
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I've been having good success with westside for skinny bastards, although it's only been a couple weeks, and I have yet to test on squat and deadlift, but they'll make it into the rotation eventually.
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So i've been doing the P/P/S routine for about 8 months now.

Pull - Deadlifts 3x5, Rows 3x5, Weighted pull ups and chins 3x10
Push - Bench Press 3x5, Press 3x5/4, Heavy Dips 3x6, Cubans or Pullovers
Squat - Back Squats 3x5, Front Squats 3x7/8, Barbell Lunges 3x6


For the past month, my progress has stalled for all major lifts.
You have been using that exact routine for 8 months, with all the same rep schemes and exercises? Have you tried something as simple as linear periodization?

Have yourself a nice backoff week; you can do the basic compounds with lighter loads, do some beach work (don't get too ghey though), have fun and try new things, etc. Just don't work too hard.

Then try moving to doubles and singles on the main lifts (DL, SQ, BP), while increasing the reps on the accessory lifts and possibly switching up a few exercises. Try using only bodyweight for chins, dips, and try doing some pistols. You can increase intensity on the rows, OHP, and front squats, or just switch to different variations (i.e. T-bar rows, incline close grip BP, hack squat, etc.).

But make sure you increase the intensity on the big three lifts. Try two weeks of doubles and see if you make progress. If you do, try two more weeks but with singles. Then back off again for 1 or 2 weeks and then test your new maxes before swtiching to another program.

If you have been periodizing your PPS routine over the last 8 months, then all this will not do much good. But if you have just stuck to the routine you posted above, then you may be able to get a few more good weeks out of this basic setup just by swithing up a few things.
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