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11-06-2009, 08:47 AM
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What is grappling in a cage like anyway?
Had a few stupid questions for a while now:
- Is the typical mat in a cage soft or hard? The UFC's octagon mat has always looked harder than a regular mat but is that just because it's one piece??
- How come MMA fighters don't get crazy mat burn from grappling in a cage w/o a shirt? I have done gi and no-gi training and when someone is in my guard (no-gi) and I'm trying to position I rub skin off on the mats all the time even though I'm wearing a shirt.
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11-06-2009, 09:29 AM
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The cage mats are usually not that soft.
As far as mat burn goes, fighters are usually pretty banged up in general after a fight, so I wouldn't be so sure that they don't have any mat burn.
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11-06-2009, 09:31 AM
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rolling with no shirt depends on the material you roll on and the sweat. i've rolled on mats that were fine for no shirt if you were a little sweaty.
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11-06-2009, 09:33 AM
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I've rolled in a cage before. Didn't feel any different. I think the obvious difference is the fact that there's a fence and you don't have a referee re-starting you in the center. Action is continuous and you can be pressed up against the fence.
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11-06-2009, 09:58 AM
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Finishing takedowns up against the cage is a different thing altogether. Sometimes easier, sometimes trickier.
The one thing I never hear complaints about (which drives me crazy,) is getting the point of my elbow caught in the chain link when I'm against the cage. It is a little thing and only happens once in a while, but I have bad elbows and it drives me absolutely nuts!
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11-06-2009, 09:58 AM
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I don't have a ton of experience, as I only had one fight, but my cage mat felt exactly like a wrestling mat.
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11-06-2009, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rarmonio8920
I've rolled in a cage before. Didn't feel any different. I think the obvious difference is the fact that there's a fence and you don't have a referee re-starting you in the center. Action is continuous and you can be pressed up against the fence.
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i agree, the only difference is the fence, which can be used as a tool.
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11-06-2009, 10:16 AM
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Isn't the flooring in the cage canvas? It doesn't look or sound very soft at all.
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11-06-2009, 12:39 PM
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Cages can be covered in canvas or vinyl, usually over 1" or 1 1/2" of foam. Don't know what the UFC uses, although I see a lot of people pouring water on the floor, which usually means canvas. The floor usually has a bit of give, too, so that helps.
Second what HG says about the fence and takedowns. Also true of grappling. Guard is a very different thing when your head is up against the fence.
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11-06-2009, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianX
Second what HG says about the fence and takedowns. Also true of grappling. Guard is a very different thing when your head is up against the fence.
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Also when you can be punched in the face. That changes up things a bit as well.
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