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Old 05-13-2008, 01:06 AM   #561 (permalink)

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BJJ'ers are kinda notorious for that, but you can get anyone to stand up. The one I like to do is rough but it works. If they are hunched over, take your standard sleeve and lapel grip and take back steps snapping downward with each one. Do these hard and severe, really jolt them, 3 or 4 times in quick succession snapping downwards hard. Now, some players will go down onto their front from the strain, happy days if they do, a penalty in judo and back control in BJJ. For those that dont, the general reaction is to try and force their body upwards when you are doing this, so as soon as you feel the upward resistance, snap your arms high and upwards instead of down as you snap back and have will have them bolt upright infront of you and wide open for a throw. Do this a few times and Ill guarantee you they will start to stand up, the strain on their legs, lower back and back of the neck from resisting this is brutal.
yeah we have been shown this actually, in one of my comps i tried this and on my 3rd jolt as i postured slightly before the 3rd jolt he went down, not on all fours, but straight in for a double leg and sat me on my arse.
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yeah we have been shown this actually, in one of my comps i tried this and on my 3rd jolt as i postured slightly before the 3rd jolt he went down, not on all fours, but straight in for a double leg and sat me on my arse.
Yeah thats the risk.
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BJJ'ers are kinda notorious for that, but you can get anyone to stand up. The one I like to do is rough but it works. If they are hunched over, take your standard sleeve and lapel grip and take back steps snapping downward with each one. Do these hard and severe, really jolt them, 3 or 4 times in quick succession snapping downwards hard. Now, some players will go down onto their front from the strain, happy days if they do, a penalty in judo and back control in BJJ. For those that dont, the general reaction is to try and force their body upwards when you are doing this, so as soon as you feel the upward resistance, snap your arms high and upwards instead of down as you snap back and have will have them bolt upright infront of you and wide open for a throw. Do this a few times and Ill guarantee you they will start to stand up, the strain on their legs, lower back and back of the neck from resisting this is brutal.
Me likmey I can often get russian grip due to my height from this, eitehr haraigoshi or just osotogari when the try to stand up
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yeah we have been shown this actually, in one of my comps i tried this and on my 3rd jolt as i postured slightly before the 3rd jolt he went down, not on all fours, but straight in for a double leg and sat me on my arse.
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that picture shows someone countering the worse double leg in history, i take it that is much harder when the guy has his hips forward (on the same plane as his shoulders) and make that throw nearly impossible?
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Does anybody wrestle in Mick Dundee land

C'mon the BJJ doubleleg can't be that much better then the judo one

I do mine more wrestle style but have most oftne been taught the doubleg to stay standing

But to your questiongo back to one shoulder in a rolling motion you'll flip him sideways instead
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And heck even in MMA they seem hunched forawrd alotta the times, like Ishida i nthe last dream, isntead of moving away when that happens attack
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I just looked back at the video and it wasn't like i remembered it, he didn't drop for a double he just caught my leg and turned the corner to take me down, check it:

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that is your problem right there

you grip and then don't bother anymore!

you tried ochigari 3 times and off balanced him i nthe wrong direction aswell at the start
that is why he got your leg, you ppulled hi mtowards you and stuck out your leg...
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that is your problem right there

you grip and then don't bother anymore!

you tried ochigari 3 times and off balanced him i nthe wrong direction aswell at the start
that is why he got your leg, you ppulled hi mtowards you and stuck out your leg...
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