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Old 05-06-2008, 03:59 AM   #461 (permalink)
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who made that judo styles htread?

that outliend the differnces in judo/countries? Judogido?
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:31 AM   #462 (permalink)
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Thats weird I always thought guillotines were illegal cause they had the neck crank motions, and crushed the wind pipe.
How do you think even the most basic chokes like hadaka-jime work? Crushing the windpipe for the win!
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:38 AM   #463 (permalink)

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Thats weird I always thought guillotines were illegal cause they had the neck crank motions, and crushed the wind pipe.
So long as the ref can't confuze it for a neck crank you're fine.

i.e. Don't pull guard, lay flat on your stomach... doesn't work nearly as well though...
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:05 PM   #464 (permalink)

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How do you think even the most basic chokes like hadaka-jime work? Crushing the windpipe for the win!
Well you must be doing hadaka-jime wrong then. It's meant to constrict blood flow to the head by squeezing the two arteries in your neck. Not your wind pipe. The ezekiel or soto guruma (I think it's called) is a different story, but you should brush up on your chokes if you crush the windpipe with your RNC.
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The ezekiel or soto guruma (I think it's called) is a different story, but you should brush up on your chokes if you crush the windpipe with your RNC.
It's sode guruma and it is supposed to target the two arteries but never seems to come out that way....
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Well you must be doing hadaka-jime wrong then. It's meant to constrict blood flow to the head by squeezing the two arteries in your neck. Not your wind pipe. The ezekiel or soto guruma (I think it's called) is a different story, but you should brush up on your chokes if you crush the windpipe with your RNC.
I believe your wrong on this one. There are two variations of the hadaka-jime. There is the rnc version and the more traditional version (and less effective imo) where you use your forarm to squash your oponents windpipe as seen here: http://judoinfo.com/hadaka.jpg
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:23 PM   #467 (permalink)

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My sensei doesn't teach it like that, and says that it's illegal. The variation he shows is almost like a neck crank, by cranking the persons head to the side, but he said the correct way of doing it is having the elbow in-line with the chin or nose.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:54 PM   #468 (permalink)
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Ichi you posted this



In the other thread

the throw at 20 seconds and forward about 7-8secs

Is that a Khabarelli?
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:58 PM   #469 (permalink)
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Just for the ehll of it

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When I worked at the local school one of my judo kids looked at this highlight with me and said "he does Ippon the way I do it" Talk about confidence
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I found the dude that msot resembles my style to!

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