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Originally Posted by YeahBee
So Q what DO YOU mean by overcommited?
Plenty of those throws in tyhe KAro highlight were overthrows for me but maybe I am using the wrong word? a throw should for the most part leave you in sidecontrol, especially hip-throwsDiego scrambled from many of those throws IIRC, buyt he is great at that
DO you think KAro tries to use it as a KO tool?
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I think overthrow usually means where, like a couple with Diego, he throws then falls over his opponent rather than on it or beside him, often seen in judo after the ippon has been scored. Kinda losing your base. I think 'overthrow' is an mma internet trerm.
In Karos osoto-makikomi on Serra he didn't quite make the complete throw but was able to get a somewhat decent position from it still. With seoi on Strasser, he completed the throw but didn't maintain complete control after the fall.
I don't think he tries to focus it as a ko tool neccessarily but in some instances where doesn't make the kake, he sure 'seems' to have no problem driving the oppoonents head into the ground..lol. I don't know if on purpose but I'm sure he knows he won't be penalized like he would in judo.
With the Diego fight, I think that Diego just pissed him off with his comments and he went more for air miles in plenty, fast throws rather than focusing taking top control. Credit to Diego as well for scrambling outta bottom often but I believe it was a bit of both. Wat'd he do? 6 or 7 throws? LOL, that many wasn't neccessary.
Meh. I think he won that fight 2 rds to 1 anywho.
Overcomitted, imo could also be overthrow, but you can overcommit to kuzushi, or any step really in a throw or move.
Ahhhh...I see.. so thats what you meant? Sorry, I agree then.
In the same osoto-makikomi on Serra, it does look like he overcommited to the throw before getting better grips and position.
Most from what I have previously read tho, it seems many complaints were about the 'overthrow' specifically, and I don't see very many of those at all in mma.
