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Old 01-03-2008, 02:49 PM   #31 (permalink)

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A lot of those fighters have been "SPONSORED" by TSK and therefore fight for TSK, but from my understanding not many of them were trained at TSK, until recently at least.
Okay. Thanks for the clarification Mike.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I never been to tsk but it always looked like a joked. They have these commercials with people in head gear doing triangles, armbars... they talk about fighting yet mma is illegal in nyc. I say take a yr of sambo training and you can take out any of there students
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Their guys do well in local shows, and that's mostly because they have such a ginormous talent pool to draw from, a talent pool that more often than not, is matched up against mediocre competition.

Ex- Schulman's nephew, Nissim Levy, fought his pro debut in Ring of Combat (which TSK sponsors) against an undersized pracitioner of "Estacada" (whatever the hell that is) and won.

The same Levy fought in an IFL prelim and lost.

Estacada is a martial art from what I have seen has throws and punchs/kicks. there is a place here in Queens where they teach it. The guy also teaches ju jitsu not bjj, but he does lots of subs...
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:52 AM   #34 (permalink)
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They have some decent guys wearing their shorts at some of the grappling tourney's I've been to. Their kids divisions seem to do well at the NAGA's, whatever that means.

I went to one of their schools last year when I was visiting my family (x-mas '06). It was in Rockland county, (Nanuet I think). the Instruction was HORRIBLE. I don't know if it was not the normal instructor b/c it was Christmas time or what, but the 17-20 people that were there that had been doing BJJ " for about a year or so" and were . . . well . . . pathetic. Although their stand up looked decent from what I saw.

Take from that what you want.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:04 AM   #35 (permalink)

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wow...i dont think I'll ever tire of shitting on Tiger Schulmann's Karate!!

Anyone notice that the name is "Tiger Schulmann's Karate"...they are telling you that its not a bjj/grappling school in the NAME!!!

That's like someone opening a "Rocco School of type writer maintenence" and then teaching airplane design there.
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:50 AM   #36 (permalink)

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wow. I just went to tsk.com, and couldn't help but laugh.

Oh, and does anybody know why Chill Dog get banned?
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:10 AM   #37 (permalink)

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Estacada is a martial art from what I have seen has throws and punchs/kicks. there is a place here in Queens where they teach it. The guy also teaches ju jitsu not bjj, but he does lots of subs...
Thank you for that info.

I think the earlier posters are all right in their assumptions. When it comes to LI, we're still building the MMA scene, but dammit, WE'VE GOT JITS. Some examples...

Kioto- Master Mansour recieved his black belt from the Alpha and Omega of BJJ himself, Helio Gracie. He's rather popular with cross-trainers from traditional arts because of his (alleged) more traditional approach to BJJ training.

Redboy- Mikey Triangles trains out of here and he's always had good things to say about them.

Matt Serra- ...Do I really need to spell this one out?

D'Arce- The guy has a freaking choke named after him for crying out loud! Plus all the competition victories (He and his students won numerous grappling tournament, and D'Arce's MMA loss was to current top 10 Middleweight and stern lecturer Kazuo Misaki) and the like.

Vamos BJJ- Two D'Arce brown belts with their own distinguished competition careers.

With all that, why would you even bother with Tiger Schulman's?

Edit- Expanding on the IFL thing, TSK was lobbying to get an IFL team to boost their visibility. As a sponsor, they were able to send two of their fighters into the prelims. Both lost I believe, the IFL didn't give Tiger his franchise, and he had to settle for a team in the craptacular World Combat League.
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Edit- Expanding on the IFL thing, TSK was lobbying to get an IFL team to boost their visibility. As a sponsor, they were able to send two of their fighters into the prelims. Both lost I believe, the IFL didn't give Tiger his franchise, and he had to settle for a team in the craptacular World Combat League.


Actually, 1 tsk guy won Lyman Good. He beat Mike Dolce from Matt Lindlands Wolfpack team, but Dolce fought him in the prelim. Good is the best fighter tsk right now, I think if he trained with another school and more BJJ he would have a shot at fighter in bigger organizations.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:15 AM   #39 (permalink)

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Edit- Expanding on the IFL thing, TSK was lobbying to get an IFL team to boost their visibility. As a sponsor, they were able to send two of their fighters into the prelims. Both lost I believe, the IFL didn't give Tiger his franchise, and he had to settle for a team in the craptacular World Combat League.


Actually, one tsk guy won, Lyman Good. He beat Mike Dolce from Matt Lindlands Wolfpack team, but they fought in the prelim. Good is the best fighter tsk has right now, his stand up is pretty damn good and a 6-0 record. I think if he trained with another school and more BJJ he would have a shot at fighting in bigger organizations.
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