[Ryo]

Originally Posted by Voided_Warranty

I've done judo, a bit of BJJ, but more often than not I felt that I wanted something more efficient, quick and most of all, emphasized ending an encounter as fast as possible.

LMAO!! You don't get anymore efficient then Judo and BJJ. That's the underlying principle of both. The best and most highpercentage submission holds are taught in both of these. The basics are what wins fights.

[Streitzguy]

I've been doing BJJ since the fall and I've never tried catch. Would I be correct in saying that catch wrestling doesn't have the emphasis on "position before submission" like BJJ has?

[foofie]

From what your writing about what sounds appealing to you , maybe you should give something like combat sambo a try instead ?

[Aesopian]

I train with the zombie corpse of Karl Gotch.

[Frodo]

I train with Abraham Lincoln. Freed the slaves and was a catch wrestler too!

[kenban judan]

ghost of ed "strangler" lewis > ghost of thesz > ghost of gotch

[Masakatsu Funaki #1]

And I train with the ghost of Rolls Gracie. He's got my jits game on point.

Wrestling + Judo = Catch

Learning both will give you a wide variety of holds, bars, pins, locks, throws, takedowns, etc.

[_Glorfindel_]

Originally Posted by Mohawk79

I have learned some catch wrestling from DVD's I have borrowed, and I actually was able to use some of the stuff I saw. I like it a lot, but they don't teach much about how to fight from the bottom.

You're right, they avoid the bottom position or like some catch wrestler will call it : the whore position lol!!

Dont forget it's no gi. Judo, bjj came from gi, not catch. They will avoid bottom position, sometime at their own risks (giving your back) but it's munch more dynamics 'cause of that, you try to always be on top or side mount.

Like i say, there is some usefull things in catch, you have to be open minded.

[sickc0d3r]

Originally Posted by Frodo

I train with Abraham Lincoln. Freed the slaves and was a catch wrestler too!

he would've taken tyler durden to the woodshed

[Gsoares2]

i think the useful stuff from catch has been added to bjj... and vise versa..

Submission grappling is all one in the same to me..

Im just looking for the tap.

What taps people in fights? The common shit.. not some super advance weird one handed chicken wing.

The regular old submissions everyone knows about.
Armlocks, Kimuras, Triangles, Heels hooks, knee bars, Guillotines, RNC, Brabo's, Anaconda's, NS choke, toe hold.. and a wrist lock here and there..

You seldom see anything else..so save your time searching, and just go practice.