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10-11-2005, 07:26 PM
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Shin locks, ankle locks, heel hooks
I have recently picked up Tony Cecchineīs Catch Wrestling DVDs, and have rambled on about them for several posts now. Thatīs cause Iīm impressed, but what Iīm most impressed with are the moves which he focuses on that have been neglected from BJJ because of the sporting aspect: ankle locks, heel hooks, and neck cranks.
There is so much manipulation of the opponent Iīd missed out in BJJ because of the lack of neck cranks, that was a light for me.
But most importantly, catch wrestling has some extremely simple ankle locks/heel hooks which he pulls off from any position, that Iīd never seen.
A few: On someoneīs half guard, sit back o their leg and pull the ankle of the foot locked under his knee upwards and towards you. Thatīs vicious.
The quasimodo which I found to be a surprising defensive guard opener that also gets people who are slacking off by surprise.
Another one is when you have someone in your half guard you lock the foot of the leg that is over the other ankle in the opponents ankle of the trapped leg, then just extend your legs.
WTF, why didnīt I think of that!
So much stuff that comes from thinking outside the box which Iīve been very happy to be shown. If you are an intermediate level BJJ grappler, I highly reccommend these tapes.
Anybody care to comment on the aforementioned locks?
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10-11-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VagabondMusashi
you lock the foot of the leg that is over the other ankle in the opponents ankle of the trapped leg, then just extend your legs.
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10-11-2005, 07:36 PM
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Ok that was a bit screwed up.
You have the opponent on your right, his right leg in between your legs. Your legs are crossed, your left ankled under your right knee. Place your right foot under his foot on his ankle. Stretch and lift your legs as your scoot out to the side to get his back.
Better?
Last edited by VagabondMusashi : 10-11-2005 at 07:45 PM.
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10-11-2005, 08:00 PM
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They negelct footlocks for a reason. Position > Submission on your list of priorites.
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10-11-2005, 08:08 PM
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I know why they do it, I practice it. There is also the fact that Helioīs BJJ is focused on submissions from which very little effort is required. Iīm not a small man, and neither are many grapplers so the more you research the better. Especially because you are threatening from many new positions now so the game isnīt so focused on stalling your position gain but on actualy submission prevention.
I will ask my teacher for permission to try these in class.
After I got my blue belt brother with a quasimodo he was "wtf". Took the guard for granted. Not anymore. Gonna look into sambo leglocks too, they are famous
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10-11-2005, 08:16 PM
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Yes, study all the arts, leave none neglected. BJJ kind of just covers all the basics. Sambo took leglocks and ran with them, Catch Wrestling said, "Position? We don't need no stinking position." and learned to submit guys from anywhere.
Actually maybe you can help me. Aparently Mirada hates me, and thinks I'm retarted. (seriously, http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=161532) And he wont let me make a thread. Does it show any attacks from bottom mount and bottom side control? I only know a few leg locks from bottom mount, which i use effectively though.
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10-11-2005, 08:20 PM
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No the video doesnīt really show any defensive moves, just mainly offensive ones.
There are no escapes and very little positioning, if thatīs what you want you might go ahead and get some BJJ instructionals.
I like De La Rivaīs, Mario Sperryīs, and Marcelinho Garciaīs instructionals
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10-11-2005, 08:20 PM
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Btw , go ahead and share with us the efficient leglocks from bottom mount you use!
Iīm curious
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10-11-2005, 08:25 PM
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No i got a whole bunch of escapes I use, and I use alot of attacks I dont expect to work, to make the opponent move. Probably my favorite one is a kneebar from kneeride bottom.
But footlocks from bottom mount? I am very flexible, so I dont know if they will work for most people, but I grab my foot, and put it in front of my opponents belly, push away, bring my other knee in, and lean back, securing a heel hook. You might ask, how are you supposed to put your foot in if the opponent is bearing down on you? Thats what I mean, I am that flexible. I use my foot like a needle, and thread in through my opponents arms, until i can get the leverage to push him away. For the heel hook or ankle lock.
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10-11-2005, 08:40 PM
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Thatīs badass, Iīm pretty flexible, Iīll be sure to try it. It does seem to leave a lot of openings tho
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