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Old 04-16-2008, 02:01 PM   #1 (permalink)

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I'm a pretty strong guy for my size, but Monday night, I got completely overpowered. I'm not talking like he was just stronger than me. He was FAR stronger than me. This happens against bigger guys, but this cat was my own size. He's only been training for a a month or so and has no real technique. I found it easy to pass his guard and get dominate position, but he just powered out of nearly every sub I tried. Granted, I'm not Rickson, but I've been training considerably longer than him and I just found it frustrating. He even subbed me once. I don't mind gettng subbed through superior technique, but this guy just put me in some sort of modified gullitine (it wasn't even a real technique I don't think) and crushed my larnyx.
Next time I roll with him I suppose I'll try to be faster on my transitions and more conservative in my positions. This did give me an appreciation for how I tend to use my own strength against smaller (and believe me there aren't many) opponents. So that's something I need to work on.
I've been aggravated with myself all week over this and I just had to vent.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I know what you mean. I roll with guys all the time that are bigger and/or stronger than me. My technique is for the most part better than theirs, but I lose position alot when I go for a submission simply because they can muscle out of it. I just play top game once I get there and wait for them to tire out. Pass their guard, hang out in side control, spin around north/south to side control on the other side, knee on belly, back down to side control, repeat, etc.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #3 (permalink)

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You know what, that's not a bad idea. I could certainly use practice transitioning from one position to another. I still need to work on pulling off subs on guy that much stronger than me though.
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Let it be a lesson to not use your strength as a crutch.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:15 PM   #5 (permalink)

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If hes powering out of dominant positions that means your positioning isn't very good. Say for example you are in side control. I take it that hes escaping by pushing you off like hes doing a bench press.

In cases like this I switch my hips which rotates my torso a little bit. This will break his hand positioning on you and you will be back in side control.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:26 PM   #6 (permalink)

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I can pretty much keep position, he just powers out of my subs: triangles, kimuras, armbars, guillitines, etc. I did get him with a RNC.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:33 PM   #8 (permalink)

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No doubt this has pushed me harder in my workouts, but I already work out a lot (heavy lifting, plyos, the whole deal) and I'm stronger than most guys my size. An extra hour or two in the gym isn't going to help me out here. This dude is just a freak of nature. I'm not kidding, the first time I grabbed a hold of him, I thought, "Oh crap." Matching his strength isn't going to be an option for me. A man's got to know his limitations, after all.
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Dude if someone powers out of a guillotine or armbar then you probably have sloppy technique. Drill the technique more. I've guillotined a lot of people bigger and stronger than me. They shouldn't be able to get out if you know how to apply it properly.
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I don't have a problem with stronger guys, I even prefer them, it seems so easy to armdrag and take back because they are always pulling or pushing harder than needed.
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