QUIT Making up names for moves!!

[Hillary]

Guys, I'm totally cereal here.

Every thread I look on, guys are talking about the "double-twisted-back-smasher" or the "crackwhore" or the "riding it bare" new move, and subsequently posting videos of it on youtube. I had some guy on the UG today try to tell me that a triangle with the leg in is called a unicorn. Really? A fucking unicorn?

Stop it. It's fucking ridiculous for one, makes the sport look even more gay, and it's hindering your jiu jitsu. Okay, the last one is a stretch, but let me explain myself. Here, in the US, we're more accustomed to the abrupt, explosive wrestling style and we've grown to name everything we do. The couple of times I've rolled with F.O.B. Brazilians or down in Brazil, no one has names for shit. You just roll. Anything that straightens out the arm is an armbar--regardless of position, invertedness or no, etc. Chokes are just chokes. I'm overgeneralizing here a wee bit but you get my point. It's much more simplified.

And you can see the reflections in their game. We're all taught that there's a significant difference in knowing a technique and UNDERSTANDING it. The way we try so hard for this new move we see on youtube, shoot to the next one, etc., we're not FEELING jiu jitsu. Roll, flow to and from positions, and take what comes at you--don't force it. That's one thing you'll notice most about when you roll with some of the best guys (especially Marcelo and Cobrinha) that they wait for you to give them opportunities rather than try to run you over.

Learn Jiu Jitsu. Don't learn the Purple Nerple Weasel.

[Darkslide632]

But the Purple Nerple Weasel was on my list of things to work on this week

[lechien]

So I take it the Mendes brothers and their kiss of the dragon (biejo do dragao) move is uncool.

[bnosam]

Hillary is hatin' on eddie bravo.

[dataws6]

I started out in Army Combatives and this reminds me of the first Braziilian I trained with. In Combatives we call things by what they look like IE: americana is a bent arm bar and kimura is a reverse bent arm bar.

I was trying to ask him about a technique and I told him it starts from the scarf position. He looked at me like I was crazy and asked me wtf was a scarf position and why you would even call it that.. i was embarassed but I still dont know what the proper term for it is... Maybe its just a variation from side control?

[fiftysvn]

Bloody Elbow is one of the few websites I read for mma and I absolutely LOVED Lytle's submission last Saturday, but I cringed when I read this article:

Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Chris Lytle Traps and Taps Matt Brown With "the Lytle"

Since I couldn't find any cool names for the inverted triangle/arm bar combination from side mount that Lytle landed on Brown, and since Lytle also tapped out Jason Gilliam with it at UFC 73, I have decided to name the hold "the Lytle".

There's a long and proud tradition of submission holds being named for the fighter who made them famous. Most well known is the Kimura, named for legendary judoka Masahiko Kimura, who used it to defeat one of the founders of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Hélio Gracie in their epic 1951 bout.

Chris Lytle may never hold a major championship belt, but he's an awesome fighter with a long and storied career -- he fought Lion's Den member Jason Delucia in Pancrase in 1999! -- and I'd love to see him claim a little bit of well-earned immortality in the sport. So remember, next time you see this move pulled off, it's called "the Lytle".

[bnosam]

Originally Posted by fiftysvn

Bloody Elbow is one of the few websites I read for mma and I absolutely LOVED Lytle's submission last Saturday, but I cringed when I read this article:

Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Chris Lytle Traps and Taps Matt Brown With "the Lytle"

What garbage. brb doing crackhead control to spiderweb to eggbasket in an alligator trap

[Hillary]

NOT a direct shot at Eddie. Eddie's a good grappler who has his own little subgame of nogi (read: not new system) that's very good for flexible people. I just hate everyone who has to name stuff. There's a leglock guy in BFE, Tennessee that Cavaca and Roli train with--he uses four terms: toe hold, heel hook, knee bar, ankle break (he doesn't say ankle lock, he's a little intense). And this guy will show you 400 in an hour. It makes it so much more conceptual and...better.

[StranGold**]

well as long as you are not "riding it bare" on a "crackwhore", I think you can stay disease free.

now tomorrow instead of working I have to research this whole al gore/serial/man-bear-pig thing and see what the fuck is going on that youtube clip.

also, "the Lytle" is so fetch

[Joose]

Colorful names for moves to match their colorful tapout and affliction shirts.


By the way you misspelled armbar, its spelled juji gatame.