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Old 07-01-2009, 05:15 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Passing/Reversing the Deep Half Guard a la Andre Galvao

I apologize if this is all came out as a cluster of nonsense. Hopefully the videos will make my poor descriptions clearer. These were my own notes, but thought they would be interesting to post and see other people's opinions/experiences and/or if they caught anything in the clips that I didn't.

This movement is essentially the same one that can be seen in the clip Lloyd Irvin put out of JT Torres and Bruno Frazatto defending the double underhook pass (No Gi Double Underhook Pass Defense). Galvao can also be seen doing this when he plays 93 guard. I like that it's applicable from so many positions and has so many ways out of the position.

I watched this position in Galvao vs Tozi/Galvao vs Humphreys repeatedly at quarter speed in order to catch a few things I may not have seen at first. I was able to find both videos online, hopefully they don't get taken down. In Galvao vs Humphreys (YouTube - Tarsis Humphreys X Andre Galvao Medium Heavy Weight Finals), start at 6:35 in. Galvao commits to the position and does most of it, but gets stuck because Tarsis grabs Galvao's lower leg. In Galvao vs Tozi (YouTube - Roberto Tozi X Andre Galvao Open Weight Finals), Galvao is able to take the back after doing the reversal in a picture perfect manner. Start at 5:39. You can tell Galvao is trying to take the back as well against Tarsis, but isn't able. There are many options after the initial movement (as opposed to taking the back - Ex. Remove lower leg to crucifix, roll him over in a belly-down armbar manner, etc. ), but I'm just studying this one for now.

Deep Half Guard Defense/Reversal

First, dig for kimuras and collar chokes as they don't involve giving up position first. If they work, they work. Don't let the opponent establish any sleeve grips. Next, start putting pressure on his lower half using your hand closer to his legs to get him to turn away slightly (at this point, your hand is creating the majority of the pressure from your body). Galvao does this by pushing the far leg down to the mat, but it seems as if pushing the close leg will turn his hips over more. With the arm closest to his head, grab his hand if it is underhooking your high leg (which it should often be in deep half guard). The opportunity for this counter arises whenever you see this. In Galvao vs Tozi and Galvao vs Humphreys, you see him check to see if the hand is there a few times. Put most of your body weight forward and onto his knees to get him to turn away slightly (while also pushing down on his hand and pinning it to your hip - essentially standing on both feet for a second). At this point, there is a bit more pressure on the lower half of his body. Once he is turned away, equalize the pressure on both halves. Make sure his posture is broken. Before you pass your leg and do the sweep/backtake, you essentially want him turned away with equal pressure on his upper and lower halves. This allows the leg closest to his head to pass over and put pressure on the back of his neck. If there is too much pressure on his lower half, you can't pass the leg. If all the pressure is on his upper half, he will simply turn back into you. Once the leg passes, the majority of the pressure goes towards his head. At this point, the reversal can continue as usual. Examples: Galvao vs Tozi Pan Ams 2008, Galvao vs Humphreys Pan Ams 2008

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Establishing the Back Position

In order to establish the back position, with your free hand (the one not holding his hand), grab his belt or the gi where the belt should be. Remove the foot over his head and slide it under him past his face and around his body (as if doing an armdrag). Scoot hips out very hard while pulling with the free hand (belt grip hand). He will roll right into the back position. The trapped foot has now become the first hook (as you switch your hips from down to up, the trapped foot shoots through his legs in order to become the hook). The hand that was trapping the arm continues to trap the arm or make way for the choke (and then switches to the opposite lapel when you finally get the choking hand in). The he hand that was on the belt for a while goes from the belt (which you want to be closer to the mat for more leverage) straight to the choke once you get the hooks in (or slightly before if you are quick enough). If he adjusts to stop the back position, just scoot your hips out even further to readjust and create room for the second hook once again. Example: Galvao vs Tozi Pan Ams 2008
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:49 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Rafael Mendes elaborates on this technique in his 'World Champion BJJ Techniques with Rafael Mendes' DVD. He does the exact same thing as Galvao in the match against Tozi. Perhaps the guys at Brasa/Atos thought of it?

I really like messing around with this as it is obviously a good way to shut down someone's DHG if you perform the technique well. Just like the double underhooks counter though, is that you have to drill it a LOT before you can get it to work smoothly. But then again, drilling is what BJJ is all about.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:06 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Rafael Mendes elaborates on this technique in his 'World Champion BJJ Techniques with Rafael Mendes' DVD. He does the exact same thing as Galvao in the match against Tozi. Perhaps the guys at Brasa/Atos thought of it?

I really like messing around with this as it is obviously a good way to shut down someone's DHG if you perform the technique well. Just like the double underhooks counter though, is that you have to drill it a LOT before you can get it to work smoothly. But then again, drilling is what BJJ is all about.
Does Mendes mention/show any details that aren't obvious by simply watching the technique? I have seen the DVD before, but do not recall much about it. I know it's in Portuguese though, so there isn't much to understand if you don't speak the language I guess - Does he point anything special out? Any more details on the taking the back part? I realize it's not very complex, but not everyone can do Roger's cross choke either.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:48 AM   #4 (permalink)

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love that move, was elated when mendes put it in his DVD.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:27 AM   #5 (permalink)

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haha i noticed this as well galvao does the bruno move (when they are using double underhooks to pass) at some point in the pan ams 08 as well - i was shown this move once and was told its important to actually grab the wrist rather than the sleeve
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:51 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Leo Vieira teaches this on a bjj spirits dvd.

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Old 07-01-2009, 05:18 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Bumping one time for anyone who hasn't seen this. I probably should have mentioned Ari or Brandon Quick at some point in this thread, I guess. Anyone have any good suggestions/variations/experiences/details on this? Any other suggestions on passing deep half guard in general?
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:55 PM   #8 (permalink)

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I dont speak much portugese, but some details I think are important are:


- The leg-side hand grabs ahold of opponents gi cloth at the closest knee (i think to prevent your opponent from sweeping you while stepping your knee over)

Once laying on your side:
1. You first get onto your elbow on your arm that is holding his wrist
2. Proceed by grabbing hold of the gi with your other hand
3. Then release your opponents wrist and post up on that arm before doing he armdrag like motion

Another important detail:
In step 2, you grab ahold of the gi cloth or pants on the far side of your opponents hip. Once you do the armdrag motion and get your leg out, this grip is essential to pull your opponent towards you, so you can take his back. If you don't do this I think there will be a bigger chance that your opponent takes the split second to roll back into HG or whatever. Rafael actually pulls his brother towards him with that grip and doesnt let go untill he has both hooks in.
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Another important detail:
In step 2, you grab ahold of the gi cloth or pants on the far side of your opponents hip. Once you do the armdrag motion and get your leg out, this grip is essential to pull your opponent towards you, so you can take his back. If you don't do this I think there will be a bigger chance that your opponent takes the split second to roll back into HG or whatever. Rafael actually pulls his brother towards him with that grip and doesnt let go untill he has both hooks in.
Thanks for this. It seems as if pulling him by his far pant leg (basically reaching over his back with your free hand and grabbing the back of his far knee) allows you to turn him over so you can get your second hook in much easier than if you pull the belt. In turn, I assume you don't have to hip out as much either if you're able to get that grip. Obviously more difficult to do in competition since the belt is right there, but much more effective as well I would think. Good detail.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:00 PM   #10 (permalink)

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This move is awesome, and pretty advanced. I'm going to give it a shot next time someone tries deep half guard on me, although the folks I train with seem to always try to go to x-guard from there instead.

I'd venture to say that the reason posts like this don't get as many responses as the eddie bravo/ari bolden/brandon quick nonsense is because it requires zero actual BJJ knowledge to join that debate--whereas this post probably flies right over the heads of 90% of the people who are posting about all that belt drama.

Again, sick technique, and thanks for the post. Will try this out.
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