[jonasmendigo]

Judo nowdays is 99% throws and 1% ne-waza. So no, Judo is still not that important, since most Judo fighters have much less knowledge of ne-waza then BJJ guys, and in MMA ne-waza is much more important since there are no ippon throws, and a guy can always practice Wrestling instead of having to practice takedowns with GI which a lot of times doesn't translate to MMA that well

[jonasmendigo]

Originally Posted by Wrestler133

ehhh i still think wrestling is superior, i think all the UFC and PRIDE champs other than fedor had a wrestling background

I think most pride ufc champs were BJJ background or Wrestling, tied

[Cydewynder20]

IMHO wrestling + BJJ is the best combination for grappling.

True that BJJ doesn't have the mastery of throws needed for Judo, but with wrestling, you don't really need it.

[Respect-]

Originally Posted by amhlilhaus

a rare quality thread in the hws, nice post.

now back out to the blizzard of ignorance.

no shit. I'm actually learning things here...astounding. Keep it up guys I'm all ears.

[Doski]

Originally Posted by Crono7

no, judo can end after the throw, bjj ends after the sub/
sub>throw, both are good, it depends on the guy really

wrong... see karo strasser purp belt...

[Wrestler133]

Originally Posted by jonasmendigo

I think most pride ufc champs were BJJ background or Wrestling, tied

yeah true, a wrestling/bjj combo sounds better

[meta0747]

Your wrong, JJ, not BJJ was around well before Judo was, JJ in Japan invented all of these submissions and throws...

Judo came along to formalize and regulate these moves into a sport that has a limited amount of moves and rules, where as JJ is nearly unlimited in moves/techniques...

Judo = Formal regulated sport.
Jiu Jitsu = Ancient weaponless fighting techniques.
Brazilian/Gracie Jiu Jitsu = A mix of Judo, old school JJ and NHB Brazilian street fighting...

[mzatilldeath]

judo can end with a throw too... i throw you on your neck your not gettingup

[IPV4]

Originally Posted by joberd

From my understanding in judo you defend a double-leg takedown by utilizing the opponent's gi. Obviously this defense doesn't work in MMA and great judokas like Fedor have shown to be vulnerable to the technique. Do judokas have to learn techniques from freestyle wrestling in order to defend the double-leg, or are there traditional judo defenses to it that don't require the gi

Exactly. This guy wrote alot but neglected to throw that in

[GrapplingDummy]

You are WAY off base.

If you don't know what to do when you are on your back in a fight you are pretty much screwed. Judo does not teach that well. BJJ is essential in a fight.

Wrestling is more practical than Judo in a no-gi MMA situation for takedowns.