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Old 11-26-2005, 05:05 PM   #11 (permalink)

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Marcelo Garcia would sub ur ass via flying armbar
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:13 PM   #12 (permalink)

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hs state wrestling champ or runner up
2 yrs studying subs

= enter intermediate

leave novice for the truly new grapplers which you are not and for the sandbaggers
I graduated HS 20years ago! In 1984.....but like i said, i don't look 40, and my body can still definitely outwrestle most people.....the only problem that i'm SURE i'll encounter is mat "conditioning" and gassing.

I beleive conditioning wins most fights and grappling matches, so to take that into account i think is important. It doesn't really matter what you ability is so much as your conditioning. Your conditioning on the mat is what determines if you will be able to implement your knowledge and skills and for how long. If I end up gassing at the 3 or 4 minute mark in a 5 minute match and am down on points then i'll be in big trouble. I'm just not sure what conditioning is like for the mat. Although like i said, in general i'm in good shape.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:53 PM   #13 (permalink)

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great conditioning goes a long way in the lower ranks. and is sometimes the x factor in the higher divisions.

also try the mens division. do mens and executive if possible.
if youre in good shape, you may as well test yourself. i dont know how it is where you're at but where i'm from the masters divisions and up tends to offer only 0 to 1 matches per wt class. and the middle age guys i see in there...they grapple like ..well...like they are middle age guys...if you know what i mean.
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:54 PM   #14 (permalink)

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hmmm i had the same dilemma when i started no gi grappling. When the day of my first grappling tourney came, they let us do 2 divisions and thats what i ended up doing and that worked great. I found out that i had to stay advanced because beginner was far to easy for me and it maybe the same with you.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:44 AM   #15 (permalink)

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hmmm i had the same dilemma when i started no gi grappling. When the day of my first grappling tourney came, they let us do 2 divisions and thats what i ended up doing and that worked great. I found out that i had to stay advanced because beginner was far to easy for me and it maybe the same with you.
When did you graduate HS???
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:11 PM   #16 (permalink)

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When did you graduate HS???
in 2000 why?
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:52 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Start off in Executive (Advanced if they distinguish), if it is 30-40. I haven't been to a single tournament where the 30-40 bracket had many walk-overs. I compete in both the Adult and Masters/Executive whenever possible (I'm 34), but that's mostly to get as many matches as possible. If I had to choose one, it would be the one that has the most competitors, but I don't recommend that for your first tournament. Any wrestler in Novice is sandbagging.

If you can only do one division, I'd recommend the following (in order of preference):
1) Executive Advanced
2) Adult Beginner
3) Adult Intermediate
4) Executive Beginner

If you were in my area (San Francisco) I'd roll with you and give a much more accurate recommendation. Why no real training?
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:35 PM   #18 (permalink)

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Enter whatever division(s) so that you can get the most matches in.
No offense, but I'm confused. You say you work out regularly, but would probably get gassed in 3-4 minute on the mat? Also, training on a dummy is NOTHING like live randori, as you probably know. That said, I'd err on the side of advanced because as someone already said, Novice should be for the truly noobish grapplers. Test yourself, even if you get your ass handed to you.

One of my favorite sayings: you'll ALWAYS learn something by grappling with someone better than you. If it were me, I'd rather see the tourney as more of a learning experience, than take home a cheap trophy for beating on a bunch of noobs.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:20 PM   #19 (permalink)

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Easy division. If youre just practicing your moves on that grappling dummy then I'm pretty confident you wont be able to perfor all those moves on real people.
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