MY Marijuana and BJJ thread...

[Resendiz]

Yes i know thers a recent one out there, but i want to make a thread explaining some confusion that i saw in that thread. One of the most interesting threads yet in my opinion.

Heres MY take on it.

Smoking DOES help me improve my Jiu Jitsu, but I have NEVER gone to my academy high, it would be disrespectful to my classmates since there are many cops in that academy that im sure would not appreciate the smell. The reason some are confused is because you think that just by associating marijuana and BJJ that it automatically means that a person is ROLLING high. The reason I smoke is because it allows me to see a different prespective on things, different positions come about, different techniques, different approaches in general. Ive rolled high in my personal gym and I dont like it, my brain is thinking of many new things but im mentally slower. I have a close friend that i smoke with on a rgular basis, and we are always talking about Jiu Jitsu and going into deep thought about BJJ. My friend is a very smart guy and i dont say that about many people, he smokes and agrees that you go into a different state of mind. It allows me to see things that i normally wouldnt see.

Some are offended because its not "moraly right", till today there is no clear definition of what is moraly right or wrong, sure there are examples and ideas that would generalize both right and wrong morality, but no clear definition. Morals are set by each individual, some make their own morals and some follow a group.. but thats another story. Using the fact that pot is illegal in the US does not mean anything. It is illegal because some wigs up in washington decided to make it illegal without prescription, now does that make pot wrong? Natives have been smoking weed in America before it became known as the US. In some other countries pot is perfectly legal, nobody is wrong here.

I think tobbacco should be illegal IF weed is illegal, its much worse...

Originally Posted by GuardGame

If you used drugs to become a world champion, what kind of role model are you, if any?

Also, if you used these drugs to "help" you in sports, doesnt that show lack of confidence in your OWN skill? I think so.

Some people dont sign up to be rolemodels, just champions who make money, fame etc... Not saying that I personally wouldnt care about being a role model but I have every right to only care about myself. This is what I mean, that a person who smokes pot and trains in BJJ doesnt neccessarily mean that they are doing both at the same time. I would not use it to enhance my performance WHILE im high, i think it hurts you more than helps when mixing the two.

Originally Posted by GuardGame

And no, it doesnt help your BJJ and it doesnt make it "better". If you go into your BJJ dojo all high and tipsy and what not, you're disrespecting your coach/coaches and the rest of the people in there. Besides, how the hell are you going to remember the techniques you learned that night if you were high on pot?

But how would you know if youve never tried it? Sure parents would tell you the worst things about it just to keep you away from it. How do you think parents are against it in the first place? People get brainwashed easily.

Originally Posted by Frodo

If I need a chemical to calm me down for BJJ, doesn't that indicate something wrong with my biochemistry in the first place?

Not neccessarily. Nobody here is saying that they NEED to be calmed down, it just calms people down more. Theres a big difference there.

Originally Posted by OldSkool

I would get killed naming names, two of them currently active in the UFC and top grapplers.

It is like 50% or more are 420 friendly, in the top grapplers. Much like in Europe among soccer players smoking sigarettes during the half time brake in their games, short term sigs are a stimulant.

The top grapplers rely on their wits and creativity, 420 aids creativity.............just like that.

There are many big names out there that i know smoke. 420 indeed aids creativity.

Originally Posted by KzFactoryRumina

I don't see how weed is any worse than alcohol,which causes alot more death and problems than pot.

Its worse because people buy in to the hype, some people will be negative about it because of the ammount of times we were told that its "bad".

Originally Posted by Greoric

Simple answer, quantity of use among the populous.

Weed also carries a close amount of carcinogens in comparison to tobacco.

Technically too much of everything is bad for you. If people dont know their own limits its their problem and are not cut out to smoke/drink.


Originally Posted by KzFactoryRumina
I don't see how weed is any worse than alcohol,which causes alot more death and problems than pot.

Originally Posted by GuardGame

uhh..please.

Can you really answer that though?

Originally Posted by crocopvialhk

STFU, you are a bitch pot should be legal. Have you ever smoked weed? obviously not or you would realize it doesn't get you nearly as fucked up as alcohol, which is legal.
Pot makes you chill and happy while alcohol makes you wild and crazy, who are you to wave your finger. I am not against alcohol in any way but weed is less harmful and doesn't get you fucked up nearly as bad, so why should it be illegal?

People will use this as an example of how a person under the influence of weed acts.

Originally Posted by Greoric

No need to get so emotional man. I thought you stoner fuck-ups were supposed to be laid back.

Ahh here we go, page two... i spoke too soon.

Originally Posted by Ybot

I have to agree. How often do you hear about a guy who gets high on MJ beating up his wife/girlfriend? Now how about the drunk beating his wife/girlfriend? Guys high on pot in a social gathering getting into a fight? Guys who have been drinking at a social gathering getting into a fight?

I don't smoke pot, but some of my closest friends do. I also don't drink. I would much rather hang out with a bunch of high guys than a bunch of drunk guys. Just me maybe.

exactly.

Originally Posted by GuardGame

Well stoners, pot is illegal whether you like it or not

End of thread

Ive been pulled over twice for making wrong turns. The cops found weed and said just be careful and let me go and keep the weed. Its not as big of a deal as you dad most likely makes it to be. Not hating on you man, but i was your age once too, and when i was 17 i thought weed was for loser, but theres the problem its MOSTLY losers who i knew that smoked, had i known smart people smoked to id be smoking since i was 17.

Originally Posted by Soid

Gay marriage is illegal in most states.. I guess what they're doing is truly wrong or morally incorrect. You're real ignorant if you believe nothing is wrong with alcohol just because it's not illegal.. or cigarettes. Stay in school.

There are those who follow rules, and those whe question them even if they have been told that the rules are the "right" rules. My belief is ... make your own rules.

Originally Posted by Greoric

no...youre ignorant.

How is he ignorant? Because hes not agreeing with the law?

Originally Posted by Aluminum Kam

Marijuana has never made anyone better at anything phsyically....period

heres the problem with most people, no one ever mentions physical improvement. Its a mental thing not a physical one. If weed mankes you THINK your stronger, then youll perobably find an extra drive and become stronger, but the base behind that "hidden" strength began with a mental change due to weed.

Originally Posted by Tito74

And this comes from a guy that says Gi's are outdated, ask Marcelo, Roger, Jacare Saulo etc.
As a former Pothead it does nothing but make you lazy and daydream.

Ill day dream too if had nothing to do. But i train.

Originally Posted by GuardGame

Oh god...GAWWWDDD. We're talkin about illegal drugs here. Not about gay marriages, or alcohol.

When did I say "nothing is wrong with alcohol"? I didnt, read my post and learn to read. Jesus, ur ignorant if u didnt read my post right..holy fuck.

Stai en skewl

Christ, do you pull this shit with everybody or just me? You know what Im talkin about, not being able to read one's (my) post right and just assume shit and pull things outa your ass?

Hes talking about your take on things. You seem to think that weed is WRONG because its illegal. Hes just giving you an example.



Ill be back gotta go, ill finish the other two pages later.

[LCDforMe]

This thread is full of beautiful rebuttles.

I still stand with my stance: do what you will in on your own time. If you choose to train high, do it when only with people who you know don't mind. If you choose to smoke in general, as long as you aren't hurting anybody, go for it. In all honesty, people are blowing this way out of proportion...

[Resendiz]

Originally Posted by Hammer Time

people who dont blaze shouldnt be discussing because they simply dont know.

Technically your right, thats all that can be said.

Originally Posted by Who's Laughin' Now?

Ok, ok, ok, lemme get this straight; someone who has never smoked pot before is saying it's wrong and bad for you just because it's illegal??? GG, do you believe everything someone in authority tells you, because if you do, there are far larger problems with America's youth than I thought . . . .

Thats the problem with GG's argument. It lacks worthy support.

[hayliks]

Nice post

I roll like a black belt when I smoke weed.

[xinster]

Why don't you just eat it if you dont want cancer?

[Resendiz]

Originally Posted by Gsoares2

I smoke, I don't think it helps my jujitsu per say... but i do think it is a mind opener, and generally people who smoke.. are much less egotistical.

Hell i even got to smoke w/ the off spring of the god of bjj.... not naming names.. but still.

Its not as bad as people make it out to me.. Its a freaking flower.

Alcohol is far more damaging to the body, and mind.. i cant event think straight when im too drunk..im also cockier, and cant drive well..... If i get too high.. ill eat some candy.. and play some video games..

Marijuana is illegal because whiteys hate mexicans..

I know who your talking about and yes ive heard from very close sources that he smokes quite a bit and who are others to judge? Hes obviously doing very well at a young age.


lol at whiteys hatin mexicans... partially true, but i guess that can be said about any ethnicity hating on another ethnicity theres always those few.

Originally Posted by YeahBee

If you don't smoke daily I can't really see it affecting your cardio that much tbh, I used to smoke tobacco aswell and when I kicked the habit my cardio got better fast

Abuse of any sort is bad for you, be it cigarretes, whisky and wild wild women, or even Big Macs,

BUT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN USE AND ABUSE sorry had to cpsl that

it is illegal for a reason yes, the tobacco and and alcohol industry has too much power, alcholo abuse costs millions of dollars every year but that is not illegal

The problem is that todays comercials AGAINST marijuana dont tell you this.

Originally Posted by Envious

I am assuming from your post that you do not smoke pot. If this is true than how can you offer an opinion on the subject?

He can't. What we are reading is what he WOULD feel like IF he smoked and trained, but the problem is that he hasnt done it because he is strongly against marijuana in the first place so ... hmm.

[sproggdawg]

Whether you agree with him or not, you gotta give him an A for effort. I dont smoke, never have never will. Ive just never had the desire. But what other people do is there business and you have every right to smoke as long as youre not endangering anyone else. Mark my words though, within the next 50 years pot will be legal.

[Resendiz]

Originally Posted by tudor_bjj
Tell that to the Gracies...

Originally Posted by El Gato

More than a few of those guys are 420 . Not saying it make it right .

Or wrong.

Ok thats pretty much all i got from that other thread.

[codemonkey76]

There was a noob white belt at class the other day and i could smell bourbon on his breath and he was a complete spaz, I actually feared for my safety when he was practicing techniques on me

[sproggdawg]

Originally Posted by codemonkey76

There was a noob white belt at class the other day and i could smell bourbon on his breath and he was a complete spaz, I actually feared for my safety when he was practicing techniques on me

Id say choke him out.......


but drunk guys dont always wake up.......